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So again, as a matter of public health, how far can govt go to get you to comply?
If you aren't going to do it they'll do it for you. They attempted to, he attempted to kill them for doing it after being given notice.

Again he can choose to live as a recluse, have an unkempt yard. If that's what he wants he can live in the country away from neighbors. It's all about choices, everyone is free to do as they wish until you negatively affect others. There are consequences to actions and inaction.
 
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So just so we are clear here.
You believe this nut had the right to shoot and kill someone on his property that hasn’t committed any violence or broke any other law?
Just so I'm clear, you believe that the city had the right to send people on his lot to mow his grass and escalate this situation to point of a swat team being deployed?
 
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There is a basic disconnect between we the city have rules and I the homeowner have rights.
I live in a suburb of Norfolk. We have a neighbor who will call the city when you have one blade of grass or weed over 6”. The inspector comes out and writes a ticket for city ordinance violation that comes with a $1000 a day fine if the cited problem is not resolved to their satisfaction after the deadline. She did this to several people and even reported our neighbors house as abandoned. She reported mine as abandoned when my lawnmower broke and we were waiting for it to be shipped to us. I did look into having it mowed it was robbery just like the fines. She came over and mowed my lawn, she felt bad about the report in the process she broke my fence, my sewage drain cover and ran over the end of my hose. She replaced the sewage cover.
It is a far stretch from having weeds that can grow 6” in 3 days here and raining for 2 weeks straight to being a negligent homeowner who’s property can be called a health and safety hazard.
I was trying to address the problem and she was falsifying claims of abandonment. It was the perfect storm. Does she face any consequences for false reporting? No. She’s a former council member and none of the neighbors will have anything to do with her. Yet when she calls the city they respond.
I talked with the inspector, told him the plan and he was good. He could see exactly where my lawn mowed bought the final mow. Rip. He seemed pretty unconcerned and bothered to be here. Left me his phone number and I texted him a picture of a mowed lawn. Much ado about nothing.
Maybe this guy has been harassed ad nauseum by his neighbors. It would be time to move if that was the case. That would be my solution. It wouldn’t be at the end of a gun for people who were just doing their jobs. He was literally shooting at the wrong people. If he was being needlessly harassed then there are solutions to that too. I don’t know what was in his mind. No one does.
 
Just so I'm clear, you believe that the city had the right to send people on his lot to mow his grass and escalate this situation to point of a swat team being deployed?
Yes and the city didn’t “escalate” anything. He SHOT at innocent people and tried to kill them. Geez it’s amazing how many people try to justify violent felons
 
Just so I'm clear, you believe that the city had the right to send people on his lot to mow his grass and escalate this situation to point of a swat team being deployed?
They didn't escalate anything, they just attempted to cut his grass as they asked him to do while also advising they would do it for him if he did not. He shot at them, which of those two parties was reasonable?
 
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They didn't escalate anything, they just attempted to cut his grass as they asked him to do while also advising they would do it for him if he did not. He shot at them, which of those two parties was reasonable?
You tell me? Camouflage cops carrying "Assault Rifles" or a guy defending his property. You know if the dick wads that came on his property had announced themselves and told the guy what they were doing, maybe this whole thing wouldn't have happened.
 
You tell me? Camouflage cops carrying "Assault Rifles" or a guy defending his property. You know if the dick wads that came on his property had announced themselves and told the guy what they were doing, maybe this whole thing wouldn't have happened.
Someone didn’t read the article.
 
They didn't escalate anything, they just attempted to cut his grass as they asked him to do while also advising they would do it for him if he did not. He shot at them, which of those two parties was reasonable?
OK, so how were they able to cut his grass without his permission to be on his property?
 
Someone didn’t read the article.

Maybe they should have tried a medical intervention before bringing in the landscapers. Trespassing and brute force were not the only tools they had available to them.

SWAT officers arrived at the home around 10:45 a.m., joined by mental health officers and a crisis negotiator, Chacon said.
 
Maybe they should have tried a medical intervention before bringing in the landscapers. Trespassing and brute force were not the only tools they had available to them.
So the city needs to employ medical intervention every time someone violates a code? Are you serious
 
So the city needs to employ medical intervention every time someone violates a code? Are you serious
The way you cops complain about your jobs, I'm really surprised that you all are able to find the time to action enforce codes to be honest. But apparently, you seem to think that this is a worthwhile use of police and city personnel time.
 

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