To Protect and to Serve II

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In honor of us playing Georgia this week, here is a perfectly great example of policing gone wrong when a woman got arrested because the police flipped a coin. What trash bags.

 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I agree. There are solid arguments to be made on both sides when it comes to topics such as "higher standards", Qualified Immunity, and such. If you remember back a few years, there was the undercover officer who was shot and killed by a uniformed UCF (?) officer at a football game. The details are fuzzy in this old brain, but I remember at the time thinking how this was a preventable tragedy if the uniformed officer had made sure that the UC officer knew he was there, and had given him time to identify himself or ground his weapon and wait to be identified. I wasn't there, so...

Same here. I haven't seen the video, if there is any, but perhaps this could have been avoided if the responding officer had made his presence known, and held his fire until and unless the victim in this incident (yes, he's a victim) had displayed hostile intent.

Friendly fire, as they say, isn't.

As for me, I do a lot of "what if" thinking about getting caught in similar circumstances. What if, while off-duty and in civilian attire, I stumble up on a deadly force situation. How do I (a) intervene if need be, and (b) survive the first wave of responding uniforms? For my part, I've pretty much decided to (a) only draw if I intend to fire; (b) only fire if there is a lethal threat to me or anyone in my immediate vicinity; (c) scan, cover, and then get low and stay there until the cavalry arrives. They can disarm the bad guy and render medical aid after they cuff me. It's not worth getting shot trying to disarm or do CPR on someone I just had to shoot.

Maybe not the right answer, but it's the best I've got.
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Civilians who arm themselves should go through these same mental exercises. As it is said "don't depend upon rising to the occasion; you won't but will instead fall to the level of your training".
 
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VolFaninFla said:
OPINION: Traffic stop involving Clarksville cop example of why many question system

If a civilian had done that, they would be in ICU (at best) and facing serious charges.
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Is this a serious question? These crazy oathbreakers would have ventilated a normal citizen.

If a man who wasn't a cop grabbed a trooper's arm (after telling the trooper he had a gun, according to the affidavit) while the trooper was attempting to place the man's wife in custody, what would have been the outcome?
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These are the cops that get disciplined and held accountable...

Police union ousts whistleblower cop who leaked death in custody video

Esqueda told USA TODAY that he’s become a pariah among his coworkers since July 2020, when he shared with a television reporter footage from January of that year showing how officers treated a handcuffed Black man in medical distress. Officers slapped Eric Lurry, restricted his airway and shoved a baton in his mouth hours before his death. Esqueda faces up to 20 years in prison after department officials opened a criminal investigation into his actions and prosecutors charged him with four counts of official misconduct.
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Here is a perfectly executed pit maneuver by a 27 year cop chasing down a pregnant woman because she didn't stop on the side of the interstate after slowing down and turning on her flashers.

 
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More proof that the cops are not your friends. They are not here to help you. They are revenuers. They are highwaymen. They are here to harass you and make sure you fall in line.

 
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NurseGoodVol said:
This story is missing something. First it says he was attempting to leave then he was entering the garden section. There is a disconnect in the information.
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Still though, there are better ways of dealing with a knife wielding wheelchair ridden person than shooting him 9 times.
 
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