To Protect and to Serve II

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#13,851
Rasputin_Vol said:
4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Civil asset forfeiture, having no probable cause, roadside vehicle searches, DUI roadblocks

8th Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Sentencing for drug crimes related to possession and distribution, and discrepancy in sentencing that was there between powder cocaine and crack.
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I don’t agree with civil asset forfeitures or roadblocks however they aren’t constitutional violations. And “roadside” vehicle searches on traffic stops have probable cause with K9 searches or other legal circumstances. If not, they would be thrown out in court.

As for your 8th amendment nonsense, the government’s three branches legally set drug laws and you can disagree with them, but it’s not “cruel or unusual” to put drug dealers in jail for their crimes regardless of what drug it is
 
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#13,854
Rasputin_Vol said:
4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Civil asset forfeiture, having no probable cause, roadside vehicle searches, DUI roadblocks

8th Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Sentencing for drug crimes related to possession and distribution, and discrepancy in sentencing that was there between powder cocaine and crack.
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At the time, crack was responsible for gang wars and a rise in violent crime. Although Meth was added to this sentencing level for the same reasons.
 
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#13,857
Rickyvol77 said:
I don’t agree with civil asset forfeitures or roadblocks however they aren’t constitutional violations. And “roadside” vehicle searches on traffic stops have probable cause with K9 searches or other legal circumstances. If not, they would be thrown out in court.

As for your 8th amendment nonsense, the government’s three branches legally set drug laws and you can disagree with them, but it’s not “cruel or unusual” to put drug dealers in jail for their crimes regardless of what drug it is
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Ross Ulbricht - Wikipedia

In February 2015, Ulbricht was convicted of conspiracy to commit money laundering, conspiracy to commit computer hacking, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to traffic narcotics by means of the internet. In May 2015, he was sentenced to a double life sentence plus forty years without the possibility of parole.
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None of those "crimes" are remotely worthy of double life sentences...
 
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tim said:
At the time, crack was responsible for gang wars and a rise in violent crime. Although Meth was added to this sentencing level for the same reasons.
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You mean the same crack cocaine that you willingly admit that the CIA was involved in? How many of those people at the top were given harsh sentences? Hell, how many even went to jail?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Crimes against persons or property should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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The same people who legalized drugs are in charge of prosecuting property and violent crimes as well as the bond issue. Arrest, imprisonment, and asset seizure had the best outcome to ensure a safer society.
 
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#13,870
Rasputin_Vol said:
You mean the same crack cocaine that you willingly admit that the CIA was involved in? How many of those people at the top were given harsh sentences? Hell, how many even went to jail?
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You shouldn’t expect me to argue with you about this. People still have responsibilities for their own actions. I feel the same way about the CIA as I do about cartels regarding drugs.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol he paid for contract murders, laundered millions that he stole from people and was involved in drug dealing. Sure he should be let free 😂
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You think if they really had the goods on a murder for hire, they wouldn't have charged him?

And money laundering is a ridiculous victimless "crime".
 
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