To Protect and to Serve II

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#13,881
Rasputin_Vol said:
Who is "hurt" in money laundering? Who is the victim?
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Taxes of other people that go up because of it, businesses and employees who are robbed of it,
Customers who may be forced to pay more,
Expansion of crime for gangs, terrorists, cartels, mobs that use it to directly fund their operations

But sure no one gets hurt 🙄
 
#13,882
#13,882
Rasputin_Vol said:
So that still justifies a double life sentence plus 40 years?
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He knowingly committed several felonies for years. Knew he was screwed and still thought he could pay his way out of it. He got what he deserved and still you cry for him. You care more about drug dealers and dictators because they “stick it to the man” than actual victims of crime
 
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#13,883
Rickyvol77 said:
But sure no one gets hurt 🙄
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Taxes of other people that go up because of it, businesses and employees who are robbed of it,
We already take far too much money and waste it to be worried about money laundering. Maybe money launders are trying to avoid taxes? That's patriotic.

Customers who may be forced to pay more,
This makes no sense. How are customers impacted?

Expansion of crime for gangs, terrorists, cartels, mobs that use it to directly fund their operations
Yeah, that is the excuse used, but it is simply an excuse for the govt to know how money is being spent. This is the foundation of how digital currencies will work. They will have the ability to know where every dime you spend goes and control how and where you spend.
 
#13,884
#13,884
Rickyvol77 said:
He knowingly committed several felonies for years. Knew he was screwed and still thought he could pay his way out of it. He got what he deserved and still you cry for him. You care more about drug dealers and dictators because they “stick it to the man” than actual victims of crime
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I just laid out and explained to you that I support laws that go after real victims (theft, murder, etc). You, on the other hand support every law that is passed by some bureaucrat no matter if it is victimless or not.

"The Man" is victimizing more people than all of the drug dealers and users combined.
 
#13,885
#13,885
Rasputin_Vol said:
I just laid out and explained to you that I support laws that go after real victims (theft, murder, etc). You, on the other hand support every law that is passed by some bureaucrat no matter if it is victimless or not.

"The Man" is victimizing more people than all of the drug dealers and users combined.
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Says the person who doesn’t have a clue and doesn’t directly see everyday in neighborhoods, with families, or the scores of victims and the effects these crimes have on them.
 
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#13,887
tim said:
How would the legalization cause thefts and violent crimes to drop? California and Colorado are great examples of this big lie. Hogg, you’re invited to the beer summit. Lol
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😆 come on dude.

What happened to crime after prohibition ended?
 
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#13,889
Unless Tim and Ricky believe alcohol possession should be illegal and punishable by imprisonment they are.. surprise surprise, massive hypocrites.
 
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#13,893
Rickyvol77 said:
It didn’t go away
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No of course crime didn‘t go away but crime associated with gangs fighting for territory related to illegal booze went away.

Legalize drugs and treat them like booze. Crime associated with drugs would plummet.
 
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#13,894
hog88 said:
No of course crime didn‘t go away but crime associated with gangs fighting for territory related to illegal booze went away.

Legalize drugs and treat them like booze. Crime associated with drugs would plummet.
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Until more people became addicted, then the entire US would look like LA or San Francisco. Legalizing addictive drugs is not a good idea.
 
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#13,895
hog88 said:
No of course crime didn‘t go away but crime associated with gangs fighting for territory related to illegal booze went away.

Legalize drugs and treat them like booze. Crime associated with drugs would plummet.
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It’s not the same thing at all
 
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#13,896
VolStrom said:
Until more people became addicted, then the entire US would look like LA or San Francisco. Legalizing addictive drugs is not a good idea.
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I would bet we wouldn’t see much of any increase in drug use, they’re so easy to get now anyone wanting to do drugs doesn’t have any problems getting them. I don’t know of anyone including myself that doesn’t do drugs because they are illegal.
 
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#13,898
hog88 said:
You keep saying that without providing any evidence to the contrary.

Look at countries that have legalized/decriminalized and what are their stats on drug use and abuse?
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It’s not the same as our populations and drug usage. Addicts who are alcoholics don’t rob and break into cars and houses and shoplift to fuel their habits. Which wouldn’t be cheaper with “legalized” heroin or meth. Not to mention the societal costs for healthcare issues
 
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#13,899
Rickyvol77 said:
It’s not the same as our populations and drug usage. Addicts who are alcoholics don’t rob and break into cars and houses and shoplift to fuel their habits. Which wouldn’t be cheaper with “legalized” heroin or meth. Not to mention the societal costs for healthcare issues
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People are people and addicts are addicts if the countries that have legalized haven’t seen increases in abuse and crime we wouldn’t either.
 
#13,900
#13,900
hog88 said:
People are people and addicts are addicts if the countries that have legalized haven’t seen increases in abuse and crime we wouldn’t either.
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Lol other countries don’t have the same populations, correlations with mental illness, diversity nor gang issues. Our issues are unique to us.
 
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