To Protect and to Serve II

[hog88]

This is why you don’t rely on trucking people to understand world issues

I’d bet I have worked more international drug interdiction than you.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Have you missed the two times we both said that the taxes were so high that the black market was still able to thrive?
Consumers, even when talking about drugs, are price sensitive. If the streets are offering a better deal than the legal weed sellers, then WTF do you think they are going to do?

Gangs will always undercut any legal drugs and will add more fentanyl and other components to have “stronger” drugs. But yet you don’t seem to understand this. Or a lot of other things

 

[hog88]

But you are the guy stating more drugs and more crime would help

No Ricky that is not what I’m stating at all.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So it didn’t work to reduce crime. And you have worse crime especially in California where they barely even arrest for drug possession in the big cities. With dirty needles and ODs and crime everywhere

No because you still created a condition where the black market could thrive.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I’d bet I have worked more international drug interdiction than you.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah sure. I bet you also helped developed a specialized drug addiction program that is being sought after and copied at hospital systems all over the country as well. You barely have an understanding of drug activity at all outside of pot smoking in the 80s

 

[hog88]

Where is cocaine made Hogg?

Mostly in central/south America

 

[Rickyvol77]

No because you still created a condition where the black market could thrive.

That will never go away. Unless you think the government should give hard drugs away for free

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

This is why you don’t rely on trucking people to understand world issues

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you really mean that.

 

[tim]

No because you still created a condition where the black market could thrive.

There are people stealing legal products for the black market every single day.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you really mean that.

I do and I’m still shocked you are idiotic enough to have suggested doctors and hospital admin should be shot and killed

 

[tim]

Mostly in central/south America

And is there violence there? Do trucks with legal goods get hijacked and sold on the black market?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Non violent Crimes like suggesting doctors and hospital admins need to be killed?

Damn, man. You can't be this dense and be in law enforcement.

Assault - Wikipedia

An assault is the act of inflicting physical harm or unwanted physical contact upon a person or, in some specific legal definitions, a threat or attempt to commit such an action. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in criminal prosecution, civil liability, or both. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tort law.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Damn, man. You can't be this dense and be in law enforcement.

Assault - Wikipedia

What are you talking about? You specifically said it. You are a lunatic

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

That goes far beyond drugs.

These guys must not be aware of the other things outside of drugs that have been going on over the last 2 years...

 

[tim]

These guys must not be aware of the other things outside of drugs that have been going on over the last 2 years...

No, you refuse to admit that drugs drive most of the bad behavior and violence

 

[hog88]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah sure. I bet you also helped developed a specialized drug addiction program that is being sought after and copied at hospital systems all over the country as well. You barely have an understanding of drug activity at all outside of pot smoking in the 80s

.

 

[hog88]

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or if you really mean that.

he really meant it

 

[Rickyvol77]

From April 1992 through June 1994 we did 90 day JTF rotations in central and South America doing reconnaissance, surveillance and security. 90 days down and 90 days back so yeah, I’ve done a bit more than just worked on addiction.

So actually nothing.

 

[hog88]

And is there violence there? Do trucks with legal goods get hijacked and sold on the black market?

Heck yes there is violence there because of the mountains of cash coming from the United States

 

[tim]

From April 1992 through June 1994 we did 90 day JTF rotations in central and South America doing reconnaissance, surveillance and security. 90 days down and 90 days back so yeah, I’ve done a bit more than just worked on addiction.

Operation Snowcap?

 

[tim]

Heck yes there is violence there because of the mountains of cash coming from the United States

Ok, now follow along, legal things being hijacked and sold on the black market by organized crime happens.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It wasn’t intentional, I mentioned guns. My point was that the crimes almost always go hand in hand. Surely you can see a correlation between drugs and violent crime

Second Amendment. This is still America, right?

Unless he actually used a weapon in a theft or assault, the act of just possessing a gun isn't a crime.

And there very well could be a correlation between drugs and "crime". That isn't the point I am arguing with you about. I'm saying that you charge the person for committing the actual crime, not for having or using or selling the drugs. Being in possession of drugs is nothing. Assaulting someone or committing a property crime? That is when I expect cops to do their jobs and put them in jail.

it really isn't a hard concept to understand. Anything else is "predictive policing" or "pre-crime".

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Gangs will always undercut any legal drugs and will add more fentanyl and other components to have “stronger” drugs. But yet you don’t seem to understand this. Or a lot of other things

If a drug user is able to get a cheaper product at a dispensary, I guarantee you they wouldn't be going to a street dealer. Again, even drug users are price sensitive.

 

[tim]

Second Amendment. This is still America, right?

Unless he actually used a weapon in a theft or assault, the act of just possessing a gun isn't a crime.

And there very well could be a correlation between drugs and "crime". That isn't the point I am arguing with you about. I'm saying that you charge the person for committing the actual crime, not for having or using or selling the drugs. Being in possession of drugs is nothing. Assaulting someone or committing a property crime? That is when I expect cops to do their jobs and put them in jail.

it really isn't a hard concept to understand. Anything else is "predictive policing" or "pre-crime".

Dude we’re circling the drain. Good policing is stopping crimes before it happens. You can call it whatever you want. I’d rather have a tweaker get snagged for a tail light infraction before he robbed my wife and kids.

 

[Rickyvol77]

If a drug user is able to get a cheaper product at a dispensary, I guarantee you they wouldn't be going to a street dealer. Again, even drug users are price sensitive.

You have no clue about drug users. They want what’s stronger