To Protect and to Serve II

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GoBigOrangeUT said:
The consequences should be commensurate with the action. A swing at a cop in no way justifies getting his ass beaten. If the mental health issues are legit, it just further demonstrates cops have no idea how to de-escalate a situation. I’ll wait on Ricky to come tell me how I’m wrong and the dude deserved it,
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99 times out of 100 …. If you hit a cop, there’s an ass whipping coming. Why? Because normal people don’t punch cops in the head.
I saw his mug shot and from a beating standpoint it was pretty mild.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
99 times out of 100 …. If you hit a cop, there’s an ass whipping coming. Why? Because cops are often pieces of s**t.
I saw his mug shot and from a beating standpoint it was pretty mild.
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FYP. “Because normal people don’t hit me” is a trash reason to bang someone’s head into concrete repeatedly
 
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NashVol11 said:
FYP. “Because normal people don’t hit me” is a trash reason to bang someone’s head into concrete repeatedly
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All I’m saying is if you put hands on someone, you better be prepared for the blowback. The cops went overboard, but they were reacting to the guy assaulting one of them.
 
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You guys, Carl has been doing this for a decade.

(Possibly crazy) person does stupid thing.

Cops respond with indefensible thing.

Some of us feel it is our civic duty to hold our public officials, particularly law enforcement sworn to protect us, accountable and we call it out.

When we hold them accountable, Carl can't defend them but he can deflect and point out the stupidity of the crazy person, which is a point nobody needed.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You guys, Carl has been doing this for a decade.

(Possibly crazy) person does stupid thing.

Cops respond with indefensible thing.

Some of us feel it is our civic duty to hold our public officials, particularly law enforcement sworn to protect us, accountable and we call it out.

When we hold them accountable, Carl can't defend them but he can deflect and point out the stupidity of the crazy person, which is a point nobody needed.
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Maybe someday cops will be perfect and no longer human …. They’ll not react out of emotion… they’ll hand out coloring books and daisies …. They’ll sing soothing lullabies and be awesome social workers
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Maybe someday cops will be perfect and no longer human …. They’ll not react out of emotion… they’ll hand out coloring books and daisies …. They’ll sing soothing lullabies and be awesome social workers
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It’s literally their job to not react out of emotion and start beating people to death. That’s what they are trained to do, it’s not some new-age leftist idea.

Even if I get punched in the back of the head I’m not trying to go 3-on-1 and bash someone’s head into the concrete when they’re not a threat. What kind of cowardly **** is that? If I can manage not to act like a brainless caveman during a fight, a trained cop sure as hell should do better.
 
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NashVol11 said:
It’s literally their job to not react out of emotion and start beating people to death. That’s what they are trained to do, it’s not some new-age leftist idea.

Even if I get punched in the back of the head I’m not trying to go 3-on-1 and bash someone’s head into the concrete when they’re not a threat. What kind of cowardly **** is that? If I can manage not to act like a brainless caveman during a fight, a trained cop sure as hell should do better.
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As a 20 YO with one week of training, I worked with adults who couldn't manage their lives and take care of themselves. Almost all of them either they had a screw loose or they were mentally handicapped. You'd take them shopping. You'd make them dinner. You'd make sure they didn't leave their apartment unsupervised, etc. Every once in a while, **** would go down. I got swung on. I got threatened by a girl with a knife. We were only allowed to restrain them until they calmed down. If we punched them or slammed them, that was it. Terminated. There was one kid who was on the varsity wrestling team while he was in the program, and he outweighed me by like 15 lbs. I would have been ****ed, but thank goodness he was chill.

I think that's too strict of a standard for cops, but the idea that we shouldn't expect them to not beat the **** out of somebody who asked for it...we expect more from low-skilled, immature, private sector workers and get it.
 
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Sea Ray said:
These cops will likely lose their careers over this but that doesn't lessen anything Carl said which is reality
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The reality of “oh, many cops are garbage human beings, it happens” is a reality partially because we have a bunch of people like those in this thread carrying water for POS human beings as long as they have a badge.

As a police officer you don’t get to just beat someone to death because they did something you don’t like, so if it’s “the norm” that says more about how our society slobbers over cops than anything else
 
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NashVol11 said:
The reality of “oh, many cops are garbage human beings, it happens” is a reality partially because we have a bunch of people like those in this thread carrying water for POS human beings as long as they have a badge.

As a police officer you don’t get to just beat someone to death because they did something you don’t like, so if it’s “the norm” that says more about how our society slobbers over cops than anything else
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Every profession has garbage human beings. I actually think very few cops qualify as garbage human beings. I'm all for weeding those guys out
 
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n_huffhines said:
There was somebody on VN trying to crucify NFL players because they had a higher rate of violence than what their income bracket would predict (not even higher than the general public)...I wish I could remember who it was so I could @ him right now.
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Why?
 
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VolStrom said:
So does this mean that if a cop comes to my front door or car door and gets recorded by my door bell cam or dash cam I'm breaking the law? I don't think so.
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After a warning, apparently. Because I totally trust cops to give warnings before they beat me senseless.
 
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