Tough but effective?

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bleedingTNorange said:
Coincidentally he would lead our team in turnovers by almost double digits as well.
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actually, the point is he wouldn't. He wouldn't play, or he would average next to nothing. It has nothing to do with the competition and all to do with the scheme and the player. He has his hands on the ball a lot there and is involved in every facet of the game. We ask our pgs to pass to the wing and go stand in a corner.
If CM would let Barton and DT play ball, everybody would play better.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
actually, the point is he wouldn't. He wouldn't play, or he would average next to nothing. It has nothing to do with the competition and all to do with the scheme and the player. He has his hands on the ball a lot there and is involved in every facet of the game. We ask our pgs to pass to the wing and go stand in a corner.
If CM would let Barton and DT play ball, everybody would play better.
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You realize that Thompson's assists per 40 are higher than Washpun's right?

I'm guessing not, but I guarantee you're going to dismiss those as one of those BS stats that I've twisted, right?

What it means, is that, if Thompson were to play the same number of minutes as Washpun he would have a better statline than Washpun. You know, the same Washpun that is, "tearing it up".

If Thompson were playing 30 minutes averaging 8pts 5ast 4bd 3stl 1blk would you be talking about how he's tearing it up, just a guess here, but I doubt it.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You realize that Thompson's assists per 40 are higher than Washpun's right?

I'm guessing not, but I guarantee you're going to dismiss those as one of those BS stats that I've twisted, right?

What it means, is that, if Thompson were to play the same number of minutes as Washpun he would have a better statline than Washpun. You know, the same Washpun that is, "tearing it up".

If Thompson were playing 30 minutes averaging 8pts 5ast 4bd 3stl 1blk would you be talking about how he's tearing it up, just a guess here, but I doubt it.
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No dog in this fight but the per 40 stats are BS stats that people twist.

IF you do that.....Bob Thornton was a better rebounder than Dennis Rodman.

I do think Darius is 100X the player that Washpun is although maybe overrated by some on this site.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You realize that Thompson's assists per 40 are higher than Washpun's right?

I'm guessing not, but I guarantee you're going to dismiss those as one of those BS stats that I've twisted, right?

What it means, is that, if Thompson were to play the same number of minutes as Washpun he would have a better statline than Washpun. You know, the same Washpun that is, "tearing it up".

If Thompson were playing 30 minutes averaging 8pts 5ast 4bd 3stl 1blk would you be talking about how he's tearing it up, just a guess here, but I doubt it.
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Washpun is doing well compared to how he played here. I already said tearing it up was strong. I guess you were too busy googling info than to read.
If we happened to be 10-0 and his team playing well, then yes, I would say any pg is doing really well with that stat line. He'd be my mvp.
Don't try and embarrass me bto. You've tried before and the same thing happens everytime. You are too tunnelvisioned and emotional to think rationally about too many subjects.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No dog in this fight but the per 40 stats are BS stats that people twist.

IF you do that.....Bob Thornton was a better rebounder than Dennis Rodman.

I do think Darius is 100X the player that Washpun is although maybe overrated by some on this site.
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-correct of course

-DT is better. Handles the ball better, sees the court well. Neither shoots well. The point is we have a bunch of ballers that could be in another offense and excel at what they do best. Wash was just an example of a kid with no chance to play in this offense but does well with what he's got in another.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Washpun is doing well compared to how he played here. I already said tearing it up was strong. I guess you were too busy googling info than to read.
If we happened to be 10-0 and his team playing well, then yes, I would say any pg is doing really well with that stat line. He'd be my mvp.
Don't try and embarrass me bto. You've tried before and the same thing happens everytime. You are too tunnelvisioned and emotional to think rationally about too many subjects.
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I'm not trying to embarrass you, why must everything be some mass competition with you, it's like you're incapable of regular discussion...

Washpuns team isn't 10-0 either, in fact they're 6-6, so clearly Washpun isn't doing the best job of leading his team to victories.

My point was more or less, of course Washpuns numbers are gonna look better, he's playing. I bet Chievous' numbers would improve if he transferred to Lipscomb and played 30 minutes a game, agree? It's the ole, somebody's gotta score, pass and rebound. There's 200 available minutes in a game, if a guy is playing 5 minutes a game here and 30 minutes a game somewhere else, I would bet he's gonna see an increase in his numbers most of the time.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No dog in this fight but the per 40 stats are BS stats that people twist.

IF you do that.....Bob Thornton was a better rebounder than Dennis Rodman.

I do think Darius is 100X the player that Washpun is although maybe overrated by some on this site.
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Oh I agree, was just saying. It wasn't as though Washpun is doing something ungodly, he's playing decent in his 30 minutes a game. I think Brandon Lopez would put up similar numbers in the same situation.

Jmo
 
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and we would just so happen to see an increase in about all of our players offensive abilities if they were somewhere else or in a better system.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
and we would just so happen to see an increase in about all of our players offensive abilities if they were somewhere else or in a better system.
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So if Jordy were to play for Wisconsin you think his production level goes up? If Stokes were to play for Billy D at Floridia, his numbers increase? If Maymon had of stayed at Marquette, he's a 15/15 a night guy?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So if Jordy were to play for Wisconsin you think his production level goes up? If Stokes were to play for Billy D at Floridia, his numbers increase? If Maymon had of stayed at Marquette, he's a 15/15 a night guy?
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I think Jordy at UF, Memphis, Belmont, UCLA, Duke, ky, Louisville, Kansas, N Dakota St...has lanes to the basket all night and players/offenses that can drive and dish to get him an open 3 so he doesn't have to start launching when our O goes stagnant.
I think if Stokes had a coaching staff that taught him some finishing moves with room to do them at any college would be beneficial and his NBA future wouldn't be in question.
Maymon is gravity bound
 
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Spartacavolus said:
CM has changed the way they play offense the last 2 games as jrich has had his best games of his career.
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I don't think that's the case. I think it is more of Richardson, Barton, Thompson, Hubbs, and Davis hitting more than 5 of 25 from the field and a combined 10 points. When they hit, of course the offense will look different.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I don't think that's the case. I think it is more of Richardson, Barton, Thompson, Hubbs, and Davis hitting more than 5 of 25 from the field and a combined 10 points. When they hit, of course the offense will look different.
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That's not correct. We attacked early and often in the last 2 games and didn't worry about running a motion offense. We have talked about shooters and in game rhythm on here and there is a direct correlation to guys hitting shots while in attack mode vs look for a better shot mode.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
That's not correct. We attacked early and often in the last 2 games and didn't worry about running a motion offense. We have talked about shooters and in game rhythm on here and there is a direct correlation to guys hitting shots while in attack mode vs look for a better shot mode.
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I still don't think it is a change in philosophy. It's execution. If those guys actually hit, do you really think Martin would keep it from happening? They've gotten plenty of good looks and Martin has said he has no problem with them taking good shots. But,when those guys aren't hitting better than 20%, do you really want Martin to let them keep missing? I don't.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I still don't think it is a change in philosophy. It's execution. If those guys actually hit, do you really think Martin would keep it from happening? They've gotten plenty of good looks and Martin has said he has no problem with them taking good shots. But,when those guys aren't hitting better than 20%, do you really want Martin to let them keep missing? I don't.
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Kinda goes with what you're saying, this tweet during the first half from former vol assistant, I'm guessing he knows what he's talking about.

@MarkPancratz: U can say what u want about coaching but players make coaches. If players make shots, coaches/teams look good. Doesn't matter what u draw up
 
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Spartacavolus said:
We also just had more fast break points in the first 15 minutes than va gives up per game.
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With very few missed layups and pulling it out without trying to force it in. Yes, that's what she said. These guys are playing smart and executing very well.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So you're ready to give Martin some credit?
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Always do when its deserved. Lets see how we play in the 2nd half and each game from there on. Again, many things people have been asking for have been seen the last 1.5 games. @ 8 games too late, imo, but changed nonetheless, until the last 3 minutes where we slowed it down and actually had 2 turnovers with the shot clock running down.
 
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zjcvols said:
Can you just stop? We're up by 20 and you're trolling for an argument
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It was a honest question. There's others trashing UVA to try and discredit the will be W.

He's saying Richardson hasn't improved, the style of olay is suiting him better and he has always been this player. If that's the case then kudos to Martin for adjusting right?

How is me saying give him credit during a win, worse than all those bashing during a loss? You allow 30 new threads to be started during losses bashing Martin's style or his players, but I can't ask if someone is gonna give him credit during a game?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It was a honest question. There's others trashing UVA to try and discredit the will be W.

He's saying Richardson hasn't improved, the style of olay is suiting him better and he has always been this player. If that's the case then kudos to Martin for adjusting right?

How is me saying give him credit during a win, worse than all those bashing during a loss? You allow 30 new threads to be started during losses bashing Martin's style or his players, but I can't ask if someone is gonna give him credit during a game?
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You know how many threads and posts I delete? Please , don't even start.

Tennessee is playing the best ball of the year and instead of enjoying it, you are trying to stir up **** tonight.

Do this **** tomorrow. Enjoy the ****ing game man.
 
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zjcvols said:
You know how many threads and posts I delete? Please , don't even start.

Tennessee is playing the best ball of the year and instead of enjoying it, you are trying to stir up **** tonight.

Do this **** tomorrow. Enjoy the ****ing game man.
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Apparently not enough.

It was posted during halftime, I'm enjoying it broski, belee dat!
 
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