Tragic Story of incompetence by LSU football.

[DaddyChad]

Even if that is true, I don't see how that would be Kelly's fault. He isn't a doctor and has no expertise or authority to make that call.

If someone is at fault here, and that is really up for debate, it seems like it would be LSU's medical staff or Our Lady of the Lake.

Medical staff bare minimum sounds like they missed something. Of course this is one side of the story.

 

[05_never_again]

He's the CEO. Criminal negligence. No different than in industry. A plant manager may not make the call on an issue that causes injury in his plant, but if it happens he can go to jail for it. Not his call to clear to play or practice. Agreed. But, it is his job to ensure HIS medical staff is on top of things. I don't know the heirarchy, maybe the university hires all athletic medical staff. We do know the HC cannot tell the med staff to let someone play. Even if, that's the case, a tuned in HC would question the prolonged issue and shouldn't they consider getting him evaluated. And hte med staff should have already known there medical limitations and made that call without delay after the symptoms continued. They all got a hand in this.

And to Yankee's point, did the father and son not talk at all in those 39 days?

But, if BK got away Scot Free on the ND death, he's in no real danger here. It'll roll down hill.

What exactly does the bolded mean? What did you want BK to do in this situation? Say "Hey, I know you think he's got vertigo, but it could be something else...take him to the hospital?" What in his expertise, training, etc. equips him to make such a suggestion? Millions of people have the same symptoms that Brooks had, over a prolonged period of time, and have...vertigo. Not a brain tumor. This is some incredible Monday morning quarterbacking going on because we have the benefit of knowing that this is the one out of a million case where a person actually did have a serious problem, and it is really easy and lazy to point fingers.

Any decisions about diagnosis, treatment (even if they are just making suggestions, which is what you seem to be suggesting BK should have done), etc. of an injury or illness a coach should have absolutely nothing to do with. That has always been a big no no. When a guy gets a concussion or suspected concussion, for example, the coach has absolutely nothing to do with the protocol. It isn't up to him to decide if a player has a concussion or not, decide or suggest to the medical staff what the treatment should be, or when/if he should play. It is completely out of the hands of the coaches. This situation should be no different than that.

If I'm a head coach and a player comes down with some sort of non-football related illness, I'm sure as hell not suggesting any particular course of treatment. What qualifies me to do that?

If there's a case to be had here, it seems like is against LSU's training staff or the surgeon at the hospital.

 

[Firebirdparts]

I do think BK is an a-hole, but it seems entirely possible he hasn't been in contact with Brooks's family because they've sued LSU. Brooks's dad said himself that he hasn't been in contact since shortly after the surgery, and that's exactly when they sued. He did visit Brooks in the hospital.

When a young person in great health suffers from nausea and headaches, is the first thought "Oh, I bet that's a brain tumor?" This is such a sad situation, and I feel horrible for Brooks and his family, but is it really anyone's fault?

Guys on here just grasp at anything to play butthurt. It’s none of our business.

It’s not my job to diagnose your brain tumor. Anybody who says it is just pretending because they love drama.

 

[GVF]

What exactly does the bolded mean? What did you want BK to do in this situation? Say "Hey, I know you think he's got vertigo, but it could be something else...take him to the hospital?" What in his expertise, training, etc. equips him to make such a suggestion? Millions of people have the same symptoms that Brooks had, over a prolonged period of time, and have...vertigo. Not a brain tumor. This is some incredible Monday morning quarterbacking going on because we have the benefit of knowing that this is the one out of a million case where a person actually did have a serious problem, and it is really easy and lazy to point fingers.

Any decisions about diagnosis, treatment (even if they are just making suggestions, which is what you seem to be suggesting BK should have done), etc. of an injury or illness a coach should have absolutely nothing to do with. That has always been a big no no. When a guy gets a concussion or suspected concussion, for example, the coach has absolutely nothing to do with the protocol. It isn't up to him to decide if a player has a concussion or not, decide or suggest to the medical staff what the treatment should be, or when/if he should play. It is completely out of the hands of the coaches. This situation should be no different than that.

If I'm a head coach and a player comes down with some sort of non-football related illness, I'm sure as hell not suggesting any particular course of treatment. What qualifies me to do that?

If there's a case to be had here, it seems like is against LSU's training staff or the surgeon at the hospital.

The common sense fact that he was like this every single day for multiple days. And as an experienced HC over football programs for X amount of years, the common knowledge when something is not right. And he didn't show the intelligence God gave a dead mule to question one dadgum thing or show concern enough to question one dadgum thing, thinking maybe, just maybe something might be wrong. It's why they call it negligence, and he is not required to have medical expertise to be held negligeable for someone entrusted to his care as a HC, which is the CEO of the program.

Never said BK should suggest a course of treatment. He's not qualified of course. But, as the HC/CEO of hte program and the player he is responsible for, he had every responsibility to follow up on his treatment, or lack thereof, and question why his player has shown chronic symptoms with no other causes considered. And apparently no communication to the parents as well. He's more than qualified to request/require follow up reports, and question ongoing symptoms as the HC.