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[BigOrangeD]

Where does the Bible ask you to speak truth to sin?

Ezakiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Ephesians 5:11, KJV: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 King James Version (KJV)

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

 

[BigOrangeD]

You literally do it every single day and multiple times. That's a conscious choice not just occasionally falling short.

Everyone sins daily. It is who we are. We are sinners. That is why Jesus died on the Cross.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Ezakiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Ephesians 5:11, KJV: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 King James Version (KJV)

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Sorry, but your Ephesians and Ezekiel quotes disagree with what Jesus said/did in the Gospels. He ate and hung out with all kinds of sinners.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Sorry, but your Ephesians and Ezekiel quotes disagree with what Jesus said/did in the Gospels. He ate and hung out with all kinds of sinners.

Yes he did but those are the Words of The Lord. Jesus also condemned their sin.

 

[utvolpj]

Everyone sins daily. It is who we are. We are sinners. That is why Jesus died on the Cross.

Except you do it on purpose every day. It's your schtick that you believe to be clever. That would make it appear your repentance is not genuine thus your sin is not forgiven.

 

[0nelilreb]

SINNER, you got triggered.

People that don’t know what they are talking about but still try to pass it off as truth while looking down their noses at others trigger me . Yes , you are correct . It’s a character flaw of mine .

 

[BigOrangeD]

Except you do it on purpose every day. It's your schtick that you believe to be clever. That would make it appear your repentance is not genuine thus your sin is not forgiven.

Your Judging right? Correct, we all sin on purpose. It's not a mistake we make. It is a conscious choice. That is the Flesh. That is why I needed Jesus and to Trust in Him as my Lord and Savior. Same as you and everyone else on this earth and I do ask for His forgiveness daily and try and repent daily. Does not mean I will lose my salvation. Once you Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, you are always saved from your sin and will have eternal life with Him.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Yes he did but those are the Words of The Lord. Jesus also condemned their sin.

Jesus didn't condemn Zacchaeus' sin in Luke 19:1-10. The only people Jesus condemned were the Pharisees. He was merciful to anyone who He thought was in sin. I feel confident that Jesus would tell you to shut up if He caught you judging anyone.

By the way, this is certainly not the only time that Jesus taught something different than what was in the Old Testament.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Jesus didn't condemn Zacchaeus' sin in Luke 19:1-10. The only people Jesus condemned were the Pharisees. He was merciful to anyone who He thought was in sin. I feel confident that Jesus would tell you to shut up if He caught you judging anyone.

By the way, this is certainly not the only time that Jesus taught something different than what was in the Old Testament.

Jesus spoke to sin a lot and told many about their sin. It was not just to the Pharisees.

 

[utvolpj]

Your Judging right? Correct, we all sin on purpose. It's not a mistake we make. It is a conscious choice.

I've never claimed I'm not judgmental. I don't really have an issue with it

Maybe you should make a conscious choice to stop insulting large numbers of people if your bible says it's bad. You're setting a terrible example

 

[Wireless1]

I sense some people need to take a time out
Altering the subject but in the same vein.
If I have a 6 year old son who envisions himself as a professional football linebacker but the largest adult in his lineage is 5’9” and 165 lbs is it morally wrong to start him on a regiment of HGH? We should be able to get him to 6’5 280 before high school where the drugs would be illegal

 

[BigOrangeD]

I've never claimed I'm not judgmental. I don't really have an issue with it

Maybe you should make a conscious choice to stop insulting large numbers of people if your bible says it's bad. You're setting a terrible example

I don't believe that I insult large numbers of people. I just call out what I see. If people are offended or insulted then that is their choice to be. This is a message board on politics. We call each other out all the time. That is part of it.

 

[Behr]

I don't believe that I insult large numbers of people. I just call out what I see. If people are offended or insulted then that is their choice to be. This is a message board on politics. We call each other out all the time. That is part of it.

Just trying to follow here. Am I understanding you correctly that as long as we repent, its okay to sin because all.of our sins past, present and future have been paid for in full?

 

[Orange_Crush]

So what you don't like "PC bullcrap" and trans people? No one cares about what you believe or think. Christ tells me to love other people and mind my own business (speck in their eye and log in mine.)

You may want to read the Bible before teaching it.

5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

 

[utvolpj]

I don't believe that I insult large numbers of people. I just call out what I see. If people are offended or insulted then that is their choice to be. This is a message board on politics. We call each other out all the time. That is part of it.

What do you mean when you call others Dims? Are you not taking a shot at their intelligence?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

What do you mean when you call others Dims? Are you not taking a shot at their intelligence?

Luke 4:13 says Thou shall love the sinner, unless they're a libtard. MAGA.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Where does the Bible ask you to speak truth to sin?

I just posted one place, from Jesus' words.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Jesus told us not to judge people. I go on those words and do not condemn any behavior or sin in which I do not engage. Jesus loves all of us the same and we are all sinners before God. To be honest, trying to worry about and monitor my own damn self is a pretty much a full time job if you do it right.

In the context Jesus was using, that "judge" is better translated as "condemn", which makes sense, as it's God's job to condemn, and it wasn't even Jesus' mission to condemn at that time.

He told us to speak to truth to sin in the quote, after you stopped quoting, as He told us that removing sin from our own life will help us better distinguish sin in others, speak to it, and help them remove the sin from their lives. So... Yes, He did tell us to speak truth to sin.

Again... After you conveniently stopped quoting Him, he continued even further in verse six and commanded us to judge, as in make judgments as to what is holy and who is a dog.

5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

6 “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.

So in the teaching you actually quoted, we're told not to condemn, to speak truth to sin, and judge those who refuse to receive the gift of correction from sin. It would seem that Jesus felt communicating instruction about sin to be an act of love, so would be a part of loving God and loving others.

You're batting .000 on this.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Sorry, but your Ephesians and Ezekiel quotes disagree with what Jesus said/did in the Gospels. He ate and hung out with all kinds of sinners.

No it doesn't. You can hang out with sinners while being honest about their actions.

He refused to condemn the woman caught in adultery while doing what?

He told her to stop sinning. It was the picture of love.

The only contradiction is between Jesus' actions/words, and your constrained definition of "love".

 

[Orange_Crush]

Jesus spoke to sin a lot and told many about their sin. It was not just to the Pharisees.

He convicted the woman at the well about her sin before offering Himself as the living water. It was a part of loving her. It's absolutely ridiculous to think that you can offer someone grace without calling them a sinner. You're an idiot to tell them that God will forgive them if you think you can;t tell them what they need forgiveness for.

(Not "you" you. "We" You and "them" You.)

 

[82_VOL_83]

That is not why people retire. They either have enough money to retire or they are forced out. In 25 years of doing or working with Exit Interviews, I have never had an employee tell me they quit or retired because of PC. And I tell people to be completely frank about the company and their feelings when I exit interview them. That gives retirees the latitude to speak their minds, which they always do.

You don't work nor participate in the environ that my company has created. You know absolutely DICK about what goes on here. But, per your normal progressive shtick, you now everything. There are people in my line of work getting out as quickly as they can possibly leave, not because then necessarily want to but because the snowflake environment now makes it just too hard to deal with. I am one of those. I love what I do and would probably work until I was 70+. With the environment that has been created for us in the last 9 months or so, I'm gone as quickly as I can go.....unfortunately it's about 4 years. The retirees at my level rarely speak their minds, we go, we listen, we say bye.

My beliefs are all that personal issue **** needs to get checked at the door.
1) If you **** with people because of race, creed, color, or god forbid, whatever they are identifying as that day, you should be gone.
2) If you bring your issues with what you are today or what you want to be or what you do between the sheets to work with you and make it an issue, you should be gone.

That is the be all, end all of training. I just did probably 200,000 man hours of training in 5 damn minutes. NO HR INVOLVED!

 

[82_VOL_83]

What does your bible say about continually insulting large groups of people online? Just curious

What does yours say? Chapter and Verse?

 

[utvolpj]

What does yours say? Chapter and Verse?

Dink already quoted it. We may use a slightly more modern version

 

[82_VOL_83]

Do you live here? Or do you get all your information from Mommy and Daddy. STFU.

I got the same slang in downtown Cincinnati. You really need to stop digging yourself a hole there bud or babe or whatever you are today.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Jesus didn't condemn Zacchaeus' sin in Luke 19:1-10. The only people Jesus condemned were the Pharisees. He was merciful to anyone who He thought was in sin. I feel confident that Jesus would tell you to shut up if He caught you judging anyone.

By the way, this is certainly not the only time that Jesus taught something different than what was in the Old Testament.

Do you actually believe that section tells the entire conversation? Jesus must have done something that made him cognizant of his sin because--and again, this is explicitly from your proof-quote text--HE REPENTED, and Jesus equated that repentance from sin to escape from condemnation:

8 And Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor. And if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I restore it fourfold.” 9 And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

Jesus ended the comment about Z's repentance from sin to describe His mission...to seek and to save the lost.
Again... It would seem that Jesus saw moving someone to repentance from their sin as a loving thing, and a part of His mission. He gave the law to the upright as a movement to their humility, so that He could give grace to the humble.

John 4:
7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.” 8 (For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” 11 The woman said to him, “Sir, you have nothing to draw water with, and the well is deep. Where do you get that living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob? He gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did his sons and his livestock.” 13 Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again.[b] The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” 15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water, so that I will not be thirsty or have to come here to draw water.”


16 Jesus said to her, “Go, call your husband, and come here.” 17 The woman answered him, “I have no husband.” Jesus said to her, “You are right in saying, ‘I have no husband’; 18 for you have had five husbands, and the one you now have is not your husband. What you have said is true.” 19 The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” 21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” 25 The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” 26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”

Yah. Jesus hung out with sinners, and called them out for their sin. That seemed to be what moved them toward the place of repentance and receiving Him.


John 8... The woman caught in adultery. What did Jesus actually say to her?

10 Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

He didn't play fast and loose with the situation. He called sin sin and told her to stop. It was loving. It was the picture of His love for her. Why? He told us later in John 8:

34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave[b] to sin. 35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

Jesus didn't come to affirm people in their sin. He came to rescue them from it. To free them from it. Jesus spoke and lived as though it is loving to confront people about the things that are destroying their lives and destroying the lives of others and point them to the power of God as that which will redeem what sin has destroyed.