Transfer Portal is a disaster

[Plateauvol]

We had an overseeing body. It was called the NCAA, and it did pretty okay at creating a competitive environment for student athletes, but people decided to blame it for everything. People hated it, legislators threatened it, hell, the Supreme Court told it that it was looking forward to killing it off.

Now that college football is wallowing in the muddy filth of this purely profit oriented cesspool -- now, suddenly -- people are clamoring for oversight again. It's beyond entertaining. What is the expression? "You've made your bed, now lie in it." Every time I see someone say "oh they need to impose this restriction" ... who are they kidding? Any attempt to create boundaries will be sued into oblivion. There is no going back. The bed has been made.

That "bed" will no doubt include soaring tuition costs, cancelation of all non revenue sports including all women's sports, and most smaller schools eliminating all sports except for intermural games.QUOTE="Voltopia, post: 23539426, member: 25926"]
We had an overseeing body. It was called the NCAA, and it did pretty okay at creating a competitive environment for student athletes, but people decided to blame it for everything. People hated it, legislators threatened it, hell, the Supreme Court told it that it was looking forward to killing it off.

Now that college football is wallowing in the muddy filth of this purely profit oriented cesspool -- now, suddenly -- people are clamoring for oversight again. It's beyond entertaining. What is the expression? "You've made your bed, now lie in it." Every time I see someone say "oh they need to impose this restriction" ... who are they kidding? Any attempt to create boundaries will be sued into oblivion. There is no going back. The bed has been made.
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[Brave Volunteer]

I said this about 3 years ago but the final "fig leaf" to fall from this whole fiasco will be academic eligibility. At some point the players will be considered contract employees instead of student athletes and academic requirements will be removed completely. It's already a joke. They might as well remove the charade completely and just compete with the NFL.

As for whether I like or dislike the portal, all I know is for the first time in forever it seems, we have two teams competing for the natty not named Alabama or Georgia! If the portal and NIL was a contributor to that, I'm for it!

 

[madbamahater]

I get the whole you can't restrict an adult from earning a living, deciding where to get an education, etc. it is the absolute wild west, though. Maybe there are "regulations" and I am missing something, but there either seems to be none, or no one knows what they are.

I am all for less regulation most of the time in most things in life. There are times to be sensible about things when some mild regulations may actually help someone. For instance, let's say a player hops from one school to the next and basically ends up with nowhere to go and even more sadly ends up going from a scholarship athlete to losing scholarship, because they run out of scholarship down the line. This CAN easily happen and probably already has. If any of you have an existing example of folks this has happened to, please share.

It is common practice, wise, and advisable to everyone in the general workforce to never quit a job unless you have the next one already locked up. I am all for folks moving on to a better situation in life, especially financially to set themselves and their families up for the future.

Some basic restrictions may help curb some knee jerk and, in many cases, really stupid and immature decision making. If a player is on scholarship, then maybe give a window of time for them to "shop around" and they can only move from scholarship offer to scholarship offer in writing, they can have 3 to 5 new prospective landing spots and if there is a cut off date, move the cutoff date way shorter as far as time period.

Who knows what the answer is, but something has to give and maybe the market will figure this all out. That usually just takes a very long time.

 

[madbamahater]

I said this about 3 years ago but the final "fig leaf" to fall from this whole fiasco will be academic eligibility. At some point the players will be considered contract employees instead of student athletes and academic requirements will be removed completely. It's already a joke. They might as well remove the charade completely and just compete with the NFL.

As for whether I like or dislike the portal, all I know is for the first time in forever it seems, we have two teams competing for the natty not named Alabama or Georgia! If the portal and NIL was a contributor to that, I'm for it!

I think having a deadline that lines up with the academic side COULD curb some of this. When they finalize semester grades/exams there should be a very tight window and you have to be academically eligible. I am wondering if many of the "opt-outs" during bowl season have more to do with academic ineligibility vs sitting it out for the NFL????

 

[Brave Volunteer]

I get the whole you can't restrict an adult from earning a living, deciding where to get an education, etc. it is the absolute wild west, though. Maybe there are "regulations" and I am missing something, but there either seems to be none, or no one knows what they are.

I am all for less regulation most of the time in most things in life. There are times to be sensible about things when some mild regulations may actually help someone. For instance, let's say a player hops from one school to the next and basically ends up with nowhere to go and even more sadly ends up going from a scholarship athlete to losing scholarship, because they run out of scholarship down the line. This CAN easily happen and probably already has. If any of you have an existing example of folks this has happened to, please share.

It is common practice, wise, and advisable to everyone in the general workforce to never quit a job unless you have the next one already locked up. I am all for folks moving on to a better situation in life, especially financially to set themselves and their families up for the future.

Some basic restrictions may help curb some knee jerk and, in many cases, really stupid and immature decision making. If a player is on scholarship, then maybe give a window of time for them to "shop around" and they can only move from scholarship offer to scholarship offer in writing, they can have 3 to 5 new prospective landing spots and if there is a cut off date, move the cutoff date way shorter as far as time period.

Who knows what the answer is, but something has to give and maybe the market will figure this all out. That usually just takes a very long time.

If they're going to place restrictions for players then they need to do the same for coaches. For example, I would make a rule that says coaches may not interview for new positions until after their current team's season is completely over, including playoffs and bowl games. I would also end buyout clauses. It's ridiculous to give these overpaid gym teachers "failure money" for not doing their jobs. I wouldn't allow it.

 

[DougVol]

Also it seems many players will get left out with nowhere to go from the portal and their previous school may have filled their slot. Not to mention a fouled up transcript that does not get close to a B.S. degree at multiple universities. Some teams may pick up players late in the game as PWOs who were not offered much or anything from the portal process - and then they are available on the cheap.

Don’t think there is an education angle anymore. Half these kids probably haven’t seen a University book store yet.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

All part of this "woke" culture. It is here to stay, for better or worse

If "woke" culture men's getting paid for the product you produce instead of others gaining from my sweat, count me in

 

[Vol4gzus]

Fundamental to life is change. So is bitching about it.

Talk to the minstrel in the gallery..

 

[GAVol]

All part of this "woke" culture. It is here to stay, for better or worse

I know it’s en vogue to call things you don’t like “woke”, but I can’t figure out how that applies to people getting paid and having options.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

NIL is about the most un-woke thing I can think of.

It's capitalism

 

[GAVol]

It's capitalism

100%. There are valid concerns that need to get figured out, but mostly this is just people not wanting things to change.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

100%. There are valid concerns that need to get figured out, but mostly this is just people not wanting things to change.

Agreed. I hope that someone or some body sees the chance to make the game better, the system better. My fear is what sometimes happens in capitalism, greed takes hold and people are more concerned with enriching themselves than the game.

 

[butchna]

I know it’s en vogue to call things you don’t like “woke”, but I can’t figure out how that applies to people getting paid and having options.

They used to call that CAPITALISM.

 

[Swiftybaby]

 

[Swiftybaby]

Telling people where they can and can’t work and how much they can earn. Isn’t that socialist or communist? Something everyone cry’s about these days

 

[CAVPUT]

While I'm most certainly a member of that demographic, I do feel sorry for today's young college football fans. You will never know the joy, the passion, the excitement that the sport used to hold. Folks talk about the "golden era"....well, we older folks got to live and savor it. What you have today isn't even a glimmer of what it once was. You have no idea what you've lost...and maybe that's a blessing in and of itself.

 

[peaygolf]

I hate all this crap................but Ya gotta adapt to it.

 

[Swiftybaby]

While I'm most certainly a member of that demographic, I do feel sorry for today's young college football fans. You will never know the joy, the passion, the excitement that the sport used to hold. Folks talk about the "golden era"....well, we older folks got to live and savor it. What you have today isn't even a glimmer of what it once was. You have no idea what you've lost...and maybe that's a blessing in and of itself.

Ehhh my first real memory of college football was the 98 season so I think saw a pretty golden era there. For the vols at least.

 

[peaygolf]

Telling people where they can and can’t work and how much they can earn. Isn’t that socialist or communist? Something everyone cry’s about these days

 

[#1HomeGrownUTVOL]

I never said pay the players. Dumbest crap we’ve ever done!

May be dumb, but at least it’s fair in the sense of college football brings in millions of dollars a year ,so the players should be entitled to some of that.

 

[Go aeiou]

Coaches hated the forward pass too. The pass was brought in to slow down the number of deaths college football had. Later, because teams like TN and Alabama had so many scholarship players it was decided that there had to be a limit to the number of scholarships a team could give out, etc. Then the pesky overtime and then instant replay. College football has always evolved.

Things change.

 

[#1HomeGrownUTVOL]

It will sort itself out. Give it 2-3 years. The imbalances will find resistance limits. Any static system will take time to find a new equilibrium when the forces in that system change drastically. I think it actually will have a tendency to balance out the talent across many more schools. Instead of Alabama and Georgia lining their bench with 5 stars that feel stuck, they will go where they can play. A win for everyone except Bama and Georgia.

!!!

 

[savannahfan]

There's still no good solution to NIL and wholesale transfer. It's not a positive sign.

When the courts declare athletes employees, it will really suck. It'll be impossible maintain the "student" aspect of a "student athlete" who is deemed to be a person employed as an athlete by the school.

Schools are not going to want to be in the pro sports business, nor should they be.

The way to deal with this farce is to fall back to the academic part of the equation. It seems that making a passing grade or for that matter even attending a class has been forgotten. Make these "students" attain a passing grade (say a 2.75 min) of be "fired" and the educational system honor the rejection. That way there will be a "minor league for these guys as there should be. Then we will have a student sports system, as it for most of my life tried to be!!

 

[volanatic]

I agree it’s ruining college football in many ways. The one positive of the transfer portal (which needs limitations) is what some have already said: It’s already creating parody which is great for CFB. The only issue now is how to restrict it. As it stands you can just transfer any time for whatever reason. There’s no standing by your decision required. Coach said something to hurt my feelings? No biggie. I’m out. I will say I know there are plenty of good reasons to consider transferring but this system has been abused and NIL has made it worse. It’s all about the Benjamins now and nothing else matters. There needs to be restrictions. Right now it’s out of control. Young men with perceived multi-million NIL valuations who’ve never held a real job or worked a day in their life. Man is real life gonna smack some of these guys right in the face when football life is over.

 

[Go aeiou]

It's a complete mess---rampant commercialism, greed and chaos. Ask the coaches how they like it. They've got to restock their rosters, if they can, constantly. Players leaving in large numbers, some as rising seniors for no good reason save for maybe--maybe--getting sucker money from another school. Widespread tampering. Widespread opt-outs that have turned bowl games into a genuine joke---many of the best players not playing. Appeals to fans and boosters to contribute money to NIL collectives so that your school can out-bribe other schools for high-school prospects who may not even pan out. It's all gotten crass--the athletic version of the Kardashians. No recognition of the free college education they're all getting--a benefit every regular college student would kill for. 18-20 team "conferences" soon, spread all over the country: they aren't conferences at all--just a huge collection of TV-money-grubbers. College football is now some, ridiculous bastardized form of pro football--there's no "college" in it anymore. The sport has no leadership--it's just anything goes now, and every man for himself.