Transgender Female Setting Records

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volinbham said:
so saw this in the article about the swimmer at Penn

"Before her transition, Thomas competed for two full seasons at Penn as a man. NCAA rules mandate at least one year of testosterone suppression treatment to be eligible to compete as a woman."

Why not stay on the men's team?
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They were an All-Conference swimmer as a Male.

This cat is now faster than Missy Franklin in the sprints, and faster than Katie Ledecky at distance. Wild.
 
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So PENN officials “strongly advised” the females on the team not to speak out. Oh well…

Second female Penn swimmer steps forward, describes teammates in tears

The second female Penn swimmer to speak out, who was granted anonymity due to what is viewed as threats from the university, activists, and the political climate, wants people to know that Penn swimmers are "angry" over the lack of fairness in the sport as Lia Thomas destroys the record books and brings fellow teammates to tears.
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"They feel so discouraged because no matter how much work they put in it, they’re going to lose. Usually, they can get behind the blocks and know they out-trained all their competitors and they’re going to win and give it all they’ve got," the source said.

Now they’re having to go behind the blocks knowing no matter what, they do not have the chance to win. I think that it’s really getting to everyone.”
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"Usually everyone claps, everyone is yelling and cheering when someone wins a race. Lia touched the wall and it was just silent in there,"
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Notice how the folks gung ho for women's right don't give a damn about those female swimmers? It seems that feminists are only for women's right where they can identify a male villain to blame. Makes me think feminists are more about male hatred than women's rights
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Naaaaah.
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You're right, you don't even need the top 5 boys. A team made up of a handful the top 200 would still do it- maybe even the top 500.

The US women's hockey and soccer teams regularly get whipped- not just lose, but get whipped- by 14U and 15U squads. Now let's pick a more athletic and raw talent sport. It wouldn't even be close.
 
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I really don't understand this. Women are women and men are men. If this person wishes to live as a woman more power to them, if it makes them happy and doesn't affect me negatively I really don't care what they do.

The issue here is that this person is having a negative impact on others. They can believe they are a tomato for all I care, but they shouldn't expect the grocer to let them sit on the produce counter with the other tomatoes.

We just aren't applying common sense to a problem. If the person gains or has no advantage due to their born sex I would have no problems, but that isn't the case here. This swimmer has an obvious advantage. Until it can be determined they do not gain advantage due to their born sex they should but be able to complete, their advantage would be comparable to someone taking PED's.
 
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KB5252 said:
The issue here is that this person is having a negative impact on others. They can believe they are a tomato for all I care, but they shouldn't expect the grocer to let them sit on the produce counter with the other tomatoes.
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Bingo. Needs to be shouted from everywhere.

The left is all about awareness, treatment, and isolation of mental illness except this one (for some reason). If someone with schizophrenia was out interfering with people's lives there would be nearly unanimous desire to get them treated. We always want to treat and aid people with depression that want to commit suicide, as well. Why is it not the same in this case?
 
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85SugarVol said:
It was a bit vague. To be fair, I did say “top” HS Freshman.

Are the 5 Stars about 30 or so in BBall too? Let me randomly pick 5 of the top30 15 year olds, and I bet you they handle Team USA easily.
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The problem with this is 15 year old hoop stars have no idea how to play team basketball and they probably can't shoot great. They could just out athlete the women, but shooting matters so much and the women can do that.

This isn't soccer where the U15 team knows team ball and speed kills.

IDK what would happen, TBH.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's actually the exception to the rule. Girls sports are not being dominated by transgender athletes. I am not comfortable with the integration, particularly in MMA, but it's not what people think it is.

Do you know how fkn fast you have to be as a male to be faster than the fastest female? You gotta be an elite male athlete. It's not just a matter of being born with male reproductive organs.
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Where do you get this false info?

I’ve coached multiple male sprinters who could win the women’s Olympic 100m as high schoolers.

10.7 or better is enough to be top ten all time for a woman. Our current football team has multiple men who could do that.

So the thing that only ten women have done in history, every d1 football roster has multiple guys who could do that.

If we look at the high school level you’ll find state champion women running 12+ second 100m. That’s a time an average male athlete can run.

The best female sprinter in TSU’s history ran an 11.8. Do you know what we call 11.8 100m male high school athletes? Distance runners.

The best any girl on the high school level has done in the 100m is an 11.46. As a boy you wouldn’t win a single heat with the girl’s all time best mark. You’d be a distance runner

Track & Field and Cross Country Statistics

TSSAAsports.com :: Home of the TSSAA Championships
 
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Vol8188 said:
Where do you get this false info?

I’ve coached multiple male sprinters who could win the women’s Olympic 100m as high schoolers.

10.7 or better is enough to be top ten all time for a woman. Our current football team has multiple men who could do that.

So the thing that only ten women have done in history, every d1 football roster has multiple guys who could do that.

If we look at the high school level you’ll find state champion women running 12+ second 100m. That’s a time an average male athlete can run.

The best female sprinter in TSU’s history ran an 11.8. Do you know what we call 11.8 100m male high school athletes? Distance runners.

The best any girl on the high school level has done in the 100m is an 11.46. As a boy you wouldn’t win a single heat with the girl’s all time best mark. You’d be a distance runner

Track & Field and Cross Country Statistics

TSSAAsports.com :: Home of the TSSAA Championships
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If you are playing FBS football and can run a 10.7, then you are an "elite male athlete". I played sports my whole life and played against somebody on that level only a handful of times.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If you are playing FBS football and can run a 10.7, then you are an "elite male athlete".
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And the fact that an average male athlete would be the fastest ever in many states? Are those “elite male athletes”? Seems you ignored that
 
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Vol8188 said:
And the fact that an average male athlete would be the fastest ever in many states? Are those “elite male athletes”? Seems you ignored that
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AZ record is 11.2, so the average male athlete isn't getting there and the average male isn't eve n close. You do make good points and elite's probably not the right word.

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n_huffhines said:
AZ record is 11.2, so the average male athlete isn't getting there and the average male isn't eve n close. You do make good points and elite's probably not the right word.

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What your own source declares as only a “good” male sprinter, would win the state as a woman. Basically every high school team has 1 guy who would be better than any female in the state.

That’s a problem from a competitive standpoint
 
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n_huffhines said:
The problem with this is 15 year old hoop stars have no idea how to play team basketball and they probably can't shoot great. They could just out athlete the women, but shooting matters so much and the women can do that.

This isn't soccer where the U15 team knows team ball and speed kills.

IDK what would happen, TBH.
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Yes, it’s not a matter of skill. The women would definitely hold the edge there, shooting too most likely.

It’s the massive disparity in size and speed. As you put it - out athlete them.

And they would. The boys would simply run up and down the court.
 
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