Truck Driver gets 110 years

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GVF said:
Friend in high school was driving a 240Z willingly at a very high rate of speed to a rumble. Car left the road. Seat broke and sent his passenger friend out the back and killed him. He survived. After he was released from hospital, they had his trial. He got 5 years voluntary manslaughter, not murder. It was his best friend. He has had to carry that all these years over and above his sentence.

I'm sure this could have been argued other ways, but that was his conviction. Ironically, the friend had just got "speed up but don't kill us" out of his mouth, then they hit that one curve. It was known as deadman's curve for a reason.
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I’d say every town in America has a “dead man’s curve”.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I’d say every town in America has a “dead man’s curve”.
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We had one on each side of the county. One was within the city limits but a long stretch. A very stout tree in front of the house in the curve kept several cars out of their living room over the years. One of the nastiest and grossest wrecks I ever saw was in my sisters class when a Nova wrapped that tree at about 100 mph and ended up back in the road. Dang tree only lost some bark. Closed casket, of course. They didn't really know what belonged to who. They just equally divided among trash bags. And didn't find all they needed to find underneath before the pic went in the paper. Cop had already backed off a good 1/2 mile or so earlier but they kept the rate of speed. That car was used as a display for a couple years around town.
 
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hog88 said:
It goes back to my belief that there are almost no vehicular accidents and we need to quit labeling them as such.
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I don't have a problem with things that are not intentional being called accidents...it's a working definition. What I think you're on about is this conflation with something being an accident and there not being fault/culpability. There is nothing about the word "accident" that even remotely removes the onus of fault.

I remember back when my sisters were roughhousing around and broke a lamp. They 100% knew they were at fault but made a great show of how much of an "accident" it was. My Mom carefully explained that if she didn't believe it was an accident neither would be capable of sitting for a week...that didn't change anything about the lamp being broken, who was responsible and why they were still very much in trouble.

Once something is determined to actually be an accident (as opposed to actual intent) you have to work out how far we are on the negligence ladder. Up towards the top when descriptions like "gross", "reckless" and "wanton" come into play it can, and should be, taken seriously.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
We've got the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world and you think we need to add unintentional driving acts to the tally. Sorry, I think that is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen you post.
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He negligent and intentionally put people at risk and killed 4 people. He deserves prison time
 
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85SugarVol said:
Does our constitution allow for it?
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It's a good question. And a question we must consider when comparing our incarceration rates to those of other countries which aren't prohibited from unique punishments (possibly) by our Constitution.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
He negligent and intentionally put people at risk and killed 4 people. He deserves prison time
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Im not disagreeing with you, but I think the sentence is a little much. He didnt pre plan this, he didnt set some elaborate scheme up. Some sort of negligence and manslaughter combo wouldve been fine.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Im not disagreeing with you, but I think the sentence is a little much. He didnt pre plan this, he didnt set some elaborate scheme up. Some sort of negligence and manslaughter combo wouldve been fine.
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Agree and I haven’t dug into the facts on where it happened but wonder if it was steep decline ( I assume it was if he passed up runaway ramps ) if they didn’t have radar warning signs telling him to slow his speed so his brakes wouldn’t glaze over .
 
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McDad said:
It's a good question. And a question we must consider when comparing our incarceration rates to those of other countries which aren't prohibited from unique punishments (possibly) by our Constitution.
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If we could paddle school children for decades in this country…
 
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0nelilreb said:
Agree and I haven’t dug into the facts on where it happened but wonder if it was steep decline ( I assume it was if he passed up runaway ramps ) if they didn’t have radar warning signs telling him to slow his speed so his brakes wouldn’t glaze over .
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Ever been on I-70 west of Denver? Pretty damn steep up and down all the way to UT.
 
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VolStrom said:
So he intentionally killed people?
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He knew his brakes were smoking on two other occasions and decided to try the mountain at 90mph then intentionally avoided at least three emergency truck ramps he could’ve crashed and not killled anyone
 
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Of course, the judge said his hands were tied because "the law" said he had to give him that sentence. I swear, when things don't break in your favor, they seem to find a way to follow the law.

This is a crazy, wicked criminal justice system.

 
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GVF said:
We had one on each side of the county. One was within the city limits but a long stretch. A very stout tree in front of the house in the curve kept several cars out of their living room over the years. One of the nastiest and grossest wrecks I ever saw was in my sisters class when a Nova wrapped that tree at about 100 mph and ended up back in the road. Dang tree only lost some bark. Closed casket, of course. They didn't really know what belonged to who. They just equally divided among trash bags. And didn't find all they needed to find underneath before the pic went in the paper. Cop had already backed off a good 1/2 mile or so earlier but they kept the rate of speed. That car was used as a display for a couple years around town.
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We've got one in Andersonville here in Anderson County. It's just one that sneaks up on you on hwy 61. Straight aways on either side of it and if you aren't paying attention and going too fast you can be in trouble. Some bad roll over wrecks there over the years, including one that involved 5 high school students. 4 out of the 5 were seriously injured.
 
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norrislakevol said:
We've got one in Andersonville here in Anderson County. It's just one that sneaks up on you on hwy 61. Straight aways on either side of it and if you aren't paying attention and going too fast you can be in trouble. Some bad roll over wrecks there over the years, including one that involved 5 high school students. 4 out of the 5 were seriously injured.
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Seems to me that is a civil engineering problem. Either they find a way to straighten out the road (expensive) or consider adding in speed bumps or rumble strips (relatively cheaper) leading up to turn.
 
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