Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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hog88 said:
Avoiding the question? It’s the first time you’ve asked it but:

1 the federal reserve. It’s a complete failure per its own mission statement and has been the main driver of inflation since its inception. It’s nothing but a taxpayer backed cartel.

2 unaccountable bureaucracy. Unelected an unaccountable people making law at the behest of special interests affects us all but hopefully the Chevron ruling will end some of this.

3 our federal governments shortsighted (what wins the next election) approach to fiscal policy
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I learned that passing a new Commerce Clause in 1937 was the beginning of the end. It gave Congress the power to legislate (pass laws) on anything that could possibly have an effect on interstate commerce (so basically ANYTHING they wanted to make a law) rather than the very narrow scope of the authority of Congress up until 1937. Of course it was too much work for Congress to come up with laws and policy for literally everything....so instead Congress started delegating their authority to the various departments to set the laws, ordinances, policies and codes. These departments of course (Treasury, DoD, etc) are always run by UNELECTED bureaucrats appointed by each president...so the actual power over the laws that govern this nation went from the people (thru elected lawmakers) to the Executive branch (via unelected appointees making partisan laws and policies).

This was the beginning of the end. Unelected career politicians now have all the power. Many of which cannot be fired from the Federal Agencies that continue to grow each cycle. They spend more and more $$$ every year and make laws and policies that the people dont even want just to suit their donors like the MIC, Big Pharma, Insurance companies etc etc. The result is an ever growing Federal government with almost NO oversight...spending ever greater amounts of money we don't have and putting millions in politicians pockets. I had always thought that leaving the Gold Standard ~1970 was the start of our downfall. In fact it was in 1937 when the Federal government began writing all their own checks and expanding their authority over 1000s of things that are supposed to be decided by elected reps at the State level according to the Constitution. The Federal government should be a small fraction of its current size...NOT the biggest employer in the free world.

Senator Lee discusses this at length here. Also the coup from Obama that removed Biden, lots of stuff about the founders, Constitution etc. He is sharp.

 
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McDad said:
I don't think so. I think if we step back from the extreme "what ifs" we have to agree at some age the disbursements would remain. Certainly appropriate for an 80 year old. The devil in those details is at what age does is scale back on a percentage basis until we get to zero, and the system will sunset once those "Zero folks" reach retirement.

I think your grace illustrates that many will make private (non mandated) action to help our their neighbor in need. I trust Americans to do what they've always done, help out their neighbor at home and abroad.
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There are millions of Americans that won't be able to survive without it. It would be difficult for many to replace ss from I'd guess 45 yo and older. It has to be done over at least 40-50 year time period.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
There are millions of Americans that won't be able to survive without it. It would be difficult for many to replace ss from I'd guess 45 yo and older. It has to be done over at least 40-50 year time period.
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Great. Let's start this year. Then, my grandkids will not be subject to the same mess you and I are in.

Some of those millions who won't be able to survive without made bad decisions. Some were irresponsible. I am still paying for them even though I make good, responsible decisions. There isn't one system that is better for everyone. There are systems which are more fair to the vast majority.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Isn't that the dude who was married that was literally banging patients while prescribing them opioids and got caught pressuring at least one of these extremely inappropriate mistresses to get an abortion? All while pretending to be pro-life?
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Yes,. His biggest supporters, one being a close friend, will assure you he has changed his life. I wouldn't vote for him under any circumstance for this reason alone. He's been winning rather easily. The dumbing down of America
 
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McDad said:
Great. Let's start this year. Then, my grandkids will not be subject to the same mess you and I are in.

Some of those millions who won't be able to survive without made bad decisions. Some were irresponsible. I am still paying for them even though I make good, responsible decisions. There isn't one system that is better for everyone. There are systems which are more fair to the vast majority.
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The problem with your logic is they were forced to pay for insurance with the understanding they'd get some of the money back upon retirement. They wouldn't be getting it, bad decisions or not. I find it really ironic how many call for others to sacrifice while they do not.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I learned that passing a new Commerce Clause in 1937 was the beginning of the end. It gave Congress the power to legislate (pass laws) on anything that could possibly have an effect on interstate commerce (so basically ANYTHING they wanted to make a law) rather than the very narrow scope of the authority of Congress up until 1937. Of course it was too much work for Congress to come up with laws and policy for literally everything....so instead Congress started delegating their authority to the various departments to set the laws, ordinances, policies and codes. These departments of course (Treasury, DoD, etc) are always run by UNELECTED bureaucrats appointed by each president...so the actual power over the laws that govern this nation went from the people (thru elected lawmakers) to the Executive branch (via unelected appointees making partisan laws and policies).

This was the beginning of the end. Unelected career politicians now have all the power. Many of which cannot be fired from the Federal Agencies that continue to grow each cycle. They spend more and more $$$ every year and make laws and policies that the people dont even want just to suit their donors like the MIC, Big Pharma, Insurance companies etc etc. The result is an ever growing Federal government with almost NO oversight...spending ever greater amounts of money we don't have and putting millions in politicians pockets. I had always thought that leaving the Gold Standard ~1970 was the start of our downfall. In fact it was in 1937 when the Federal government began writing all their own checks and expanding their authority over 1000s of things that are supposed to be decided by elected reps at the State level according to the Constitution. The Federal government should be a small fraction of its current size...NOT the biggest employer in the free world.

Senator Lee discusses this at length here. Also the coup from Obama that removed Biden, lots of stuff about the founders, Constitution etc. He is sharp.

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I watched part of this yesterday. He also tells some very interesting stories about his interactions w/ Biden, as well as his wife’s bizarre interaction w/ him at a dinner 2 years ago. This interview is part of the reason why I wonder who has been the decision maker for the better part of the last 3 years .
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The problem with your logic is they were forced to pay for insurance with the understanding they'd get some of the money back upon retirement. They wouldn't be getting it, bad decisions or not. I find it really ironic how many call for others to sacrifice while they do not.
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You lost me. Where will some not be getting back?

I mentioned bad decisions because why am I saddled with someone who drank and smoked their resources away? Or lived on credit cards? Or blew all their discretionary income on Vols tix and gear? I shouldn't. But I am and that's the price of this system. I am not asking for my money back.
 
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hog88 said:
Since the inception of the Federal reserve in 1913 the dollar has lost 98% of it's value, we had the great depression, multiple recessions and goodness knows how many bank and corporate bailouts all funded by the US taxpayer. What the Fed Reserve did was allow large banks to operate recklessly with near impunity and without fear of crashing because the FR would always be there to pump "new money" into them through loan guarantees and or subsidize interest rates . Yep, the FR has created out of thin air trillions of dollars since 1913 that were used to prop up failing banks and corps. Every time the FR creates new money it reduces the value of the dollar and is nothing but a hidden tax on every US citizen. It was created for 1 thing and that was to be a cartel of the biggest and richest bankers in the country to protect them and their wealth.

No, our lawmakers make vague laws and allow the individual bureaucracies interpret them making their own rules and regulations which are law. Take for instance the Federal Clean Air Act of 1970, please find the wording within that law authorizing or mandating the continued increase in CAFE standards on automobiles. It's not there, it's all done and decided by the EPA and NHTSA and not voted on by congress. Take big truck exhaust for example, (I disagree with these numbers but) the average class 8 (tractor trailer) vehicle's carbon footprint with the new emissions standards is 223 tons at an average of 120K miles per year at 6.5 miles per gallon. Prior to the implementation of the 2008 emissions requirements the average annual footprint was at 304 tons at 6.5 mpg. Sounds great right, dropped 81 tons per year in emissions? Nope, average fuel economy has stayed the same while the average cost of a class 8 truck has jumped through the roof. In 2006 I could buy a class 8 chassis for around $60k and today we're spending about $150k per copy, now not all of that is the emissions but just emissions alone adds around 20-25K per truck. So in almost 20 years prices have doubled and yet fuel economy has stayed relatively the same because the emissions retard fuel economy. I've seen estimates that without the required emissions equipment on these trucks it would be reasonable to expect them to get between 12 and 16 MPG. So if double the fuel mileage, burn half the diesel fuel how many tons of emissions do you think each truck would emit per year?

So when you throw in the fuel cost, increased repair costs, down time (yep almost every breakdown is emissions related) and the cost of the truck itself the unelected bureaucrats at the EPA and NHTSA cost companies millions every year which is passed on to the consumer with little to no benefit in the amount of pollution emitted by these trucks.
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You're an insane person. Plain and simple. And ignorant as white on rice. My ****ing god.

Federal reserve: US is the largest economy in the world. The dollar is by far the most traded and widely considered the most powerful. You simultaneously whine that economic recessions occur and that the Fed intervenes to lessen their effects. Honestly, you just piss in the wind and have it spray all right back over yourself.

Regarding cars and your EPA diatribe you state:
So in almost 20 years prices have doubled and yet fuel economy has stayed relatively the same because the emissions retard fuel economy.
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Try this chart on for size you ignorant doofus (per energy.gov).

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Dude, you didn't even remember what the questions were. Christ.

Here they are... once again...

1. Federal Reserve. The mission of the Federal Reserve is "to foster the stability, integrity, and efficiency of the nation's monetary, financial, and payments systems so as to promote optimal economic performance". You claim the Fed has completely failed its mission. How so? Be specific.

2. Unaccountable Bureaucracy. What unelected people that make laws are you referring to? Are you talking about federal judges who are appointed by the President?

3. Election Cycles. Agree that election cycles can result in both shortsighted and whiplash fiscal national policies. However, many of the important functions of the federal government seemingly are apolitical. What fiscal policy changes concern you most?
 
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MontyPython said:
You're an insane person. Plain and simple. And ignorant as white on rice. My ****ing god.

Federal reserve: US is the largest economy in the world. The dollar is by far the most traded and widely considered the most powerful. You simultaneously whine that economic recessions occur and that the Fed intervenes to lessen their effects. Honestly, you just piss in the wind and have it spray all right back over yourself.

Regarding cars and your EPA diatribe you state:
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Every intervention by the feds during a recession lessons the value of the dollar. For someone with an economics degree you have trouble grasping the concept that more money in circulation means it has less value, resulting in increased inflation. That is the hidden tax the federal reserve hits us all with when they bail out their cartel members. That is a failure by their own mission statement. Now if I need to go into bank failures prior to the creation of the fed and after you would be shocked at the number of banks that have had to be bailed out after it's creation compared to before. Read the book "The Creature from Jekel Island".

I gave you real world examples of how an unaccountable bureaucracy makes laws that have a real affect on everyone. It wasn't passenger cars I was talking about so your chart means crap in this discussion.
 
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hog88 said:
Every intervention by the feds during a recession lessons the value of the dollar. For someone with an economics degree you have trouble grasping the concept that more money in circulation means it has less value, resulting in increased inflation. That is the hidden tax the federal reserve hits us all with when they bail out their cartel members. That is a failure by their own mission statement. Now if I need to go into bank failures prior to the creation of the fed and after you would be shocked at the number of banks that have had to be bailed out after it's creation compared to before. Read the book "The Creature from Jekel Island".
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Don't let facts get in your way, pops.

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hog88 said:
I gave you real world examples of how an unaccountable bureaucracy makes laws that have a real affect on everyone. It wasn't passenger cars I was talking about so your chart means crap in this discussion.
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Oh. Not passenger cars. So what vehicles were you saying had declining MPGs here in the US... your assisted living scooter?
 
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MontyPython said:
Blithering. Ignorant. Moron.

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Oh. Not passenger cars. So what vehicles were you saying had declining MPGs here in the US... your assisted living scooter?
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I have no idea what this chart is supposed to mean.

Reread my post and you tell me, it's obvious that you didn't read it because I never said anything about declining MPGs.
 
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hog88 said:
I have no idea what this chart is supposed to mean.

Reread my post and you tell me, it's obvious that you didn't read it because I never said anything about declining MPGs..
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You stated:

"So in almost 20 years prices have doubled and yet fuel economy has stayed relatively the same because the emissions retard fuel economy."

You were wrong again. Per usual.

Honestly, Im coming to realize that most of your hate of our country is based principally on your bizarre, factually wrong beliefs. To each their own I guess. .

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