Trump bullies the CDC and schools

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BowlBrother85 said:
The President of the United States will be held to a higher standard of conduct than other citizens. That is the standard that Trump signed up for when he made the decision to run for President. Trump likes to threaten to "pull funding" from any entity which has a different opinion on a certain course of action than he does. Trump has shown this to be the case even when this difference of opinion is reasonable and involves concerns over a health care crisis, where the consequences for a premature decision can lead to mass hospitalizations which overrun our health care facilities. That is currently happening in parts of Texas and Florida. Trump is a bully, who makes impulsive threats when others disagree with him... even when that disagreement involves a concern for the health and well-being of children. It's ridiculous and irresponsible.
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Also, I'd like to point this out.

kiddiedoc said:
Perhaps the most important point is that multiple, large-scale studies have found that kids are not transmitting the virus to adults. That's quite different from influenza, and it negates said argument against the reopening of schools.

I'm happy to repost articles and links if requested.
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Now, in case you are unaware, Kiddiedoc is a pediatrician. What is it you do again?
 
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Weezer said:
Do these standards apply to other politicians as well? I would think they do, but then, I've seen the poor behavior of plenty of politicians, both left and right, defended on this board. It's funny how selective people are with applying "standards".
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Yes, but it is reasonable for the American people to expect better conduct than this from their President. I have said so when it involved Bill Clinton and the intern. Trump makes impulsive threats against entities which take action in opposition to his public positions. Trump does this, even when it involves something as sensitive as the health and well-being of children. It is inexcusable.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, but it is reasonable for the American people to expect better conduct than this from their President. I have said so when it involved Bill Clinton and the intern. Trump makes impulsive threats against entities which take action in opposition to his public positions. Trump does this, even when it involves something as sensitive as the health and well-being of children. It is inexcusable.
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See my other response.

And I'd expect better behavior from our other political leaders as well. Why limit it to POTUS when we have a Congress full of politicians who also fail to live up to "standards"?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You left an important one out:

* Still desperately trying to invalidate the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) while not having a plan to replace it with anything. On June 26th, the Trump Administration asked the Supreme Court to overturn the ACA. If successful, this would wipe out health insurance coverage for as many as 23 million Americans at the height of a pandemic which has already resulted in the deaths of over 100,000 Americans and is currently overrunning our nation's hospitals. What great leadership.
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Over running our nations hospitals? Fact check needed.
 
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Weezer said:
Also, I'd like to point this out.




Now, in case you are unaware, Kiddiedoc is a pediatrician. What is it you do again?
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But Kids can get sick from the Coronavirus. We aren't seeing very many cases where children are symptomatic, but there is at least one that I'm aware of. It can happen. The point is, that this is a sensitive situation and as President, Donald Trump should not be threatening to pull funding from public schools just because they are making a decision which they consider to be in the best interest of their students, that he doesn't agree with. Such a threat is reckless and irresponsible. This threat reflects an immature and irrational man with horrible leadership skills.

I am a Financial Services Representative at First Horizon Bank in a branch located on Kingston Pike in west Knoxville.
 
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So if the kids get it, they have to lay out two weeks, many with no symptoms at all - then they come back to play, I dont see what is the problem exactly. I mean you will NOT stop this from spreading to people any more than you do the seasonal flu.

And CDC, who changes their story about this virus every two weeks to match what actually happened or the WHO who is completely bought and paid for by China? Hard to figure out whose "science" to believe these days
 
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Weezer said:
See my other response.

And I'd expect better behavior from our other political leaders as well. Why limit it to POTUS when we have a Congress full of politicians who also fail to live up to "standards"?
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I'm not limiting it to anyone, but in this instance, Trump is the one making an irrational and irresponsible threat to pull funding from public schools. It's incredibly immature. He has not demonstrated good leadership at all through this crisis. He has demonstrated impulsive and self-centered behavior, focused only on his re-election.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
But Kids can get sick from the Coronavirus. We aren't seeing very many cases where children are symptomatic, but there is at least one that I'm aware of. It can happen. The point is, that this is a sensitive situation and as President, Donald Trump should not be threatening to pull funding from public schools just because they are making a decision which they consider to be in the best interest of their students, that he doesn't agree with. Such a threat is reckless and irresponsible. This threat reflects an immature and irrational man with horrible leadership skills.

I am a Financial Services Representative at First Horizon Bank in a branch located on Kingston Pike in west Knoxville.
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That last question was rhetorical. The point being a pediatrician disagrees with your argument about school being too dangerous for kids because of this virus. In the scheme of things, who do you think knows more on the subject? <----another rhetorical question.
 
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Boston Vol said:
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So they should make their case to the CDC and it can be debated. Maybe it would result in modifications to the CDC guidelines.

Thats not what happened.

Instead, President Jackass intimidated them, in his usual bludgeoning fashion. And he did it for his own purposes.
 
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Weezer said:
That last question was rhetorical. The point being a pediatrician disagrees with your argument about school being too dangerous for kids because of this virus. In the scheme of things, who do you think knows more on the subject? <----another rhetorical question.
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I did not make any such argument. I never took a stance on the matter of school closings, one way or the other. Read my posts. It's obvious that you haven't. My only argument is that the President of the United States should not be threatening to pull funding from public schools, just because they make a decision to close, which they consider to be in the best interest of their students. It is reckless and irresponsible. That is the only position which I have taken, and it's one that you don't seem to want to go near. I don't blame you. It's pretty inexcusable.
 
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37L1 said:
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I highly doubt digitalis is the cause of the articles stupidity.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm not limiting it to anyone, but in this instance, Trump is the one making an irrational and irresponsible threat to pull funding from public schools. It's incredibly immature. He has not demonstrated good leadership at all through this crisis. He has demonstrated impulsive and self-centered behavior, focused only on his re-election.
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Here's the thing, I'm not even disagreeing with you on Trump's behavior. He's over the top and in over his head. But, you've completely ignored outrageous behavior from Pelosi and other Democrats, who are only focused on making sure Trump is not re-elected. So why is his behavior unacceptable but their behavior acceptable? Because politics? If that's the answer, then just say it. Just say, "Weezer, I'm a left leaning liberal that doesn't really care about bad behavior so much as I care about supporting those I share a political ideology with, no matter how they may act." It's okay if that's the truth. There are plenty on here, from both sides, who feel the same, who do the same. So if that's the case, just say it. Otherwise, please explain to me why you think it's okay for one side to act outrageously but totally indefensible for the other side to act similarly?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I did not make any such argument. I never took a stance on the matter of school closings, one way or the other. Read my posts. It's obvious that you haven't. My only argument is that the President of the United States should not be threatening to pull funding from public schools, just because they make a decision to close, which they consider to be in the best interest of their students. It is reckless and irresponsible. That is the only position which I have taken, and it's one that you don't seem to want to go near. I don't blame you. It's pretty inexcusable.
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Inexcusable that he's trying to force them to reopen for the welfare of the children? Parents need to work. What are they supposed to do with their children? If science supports reopening schools as safe, why should Trump not use threats against funding to get them to reopen?
 
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Weezer said:
Inexcusable that he's trying to force them to reopen for the welfare of the children? Parents need to work. What are they supposed to do with their children? If science supports reopening schools as safe, why should Trump not use threats against funding to get them to reopen?
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Inexcusable that he is threatening to pull funds from public schools because they are making a decision which they consider to be in the best interest of the children's health and well-being? Yes, it most certainly is. This is not good leadership. The problem is, that there is not a consensus on the science. Dr. Fauci has expressed that school closings may be in order in some select places. Why shouldn't those school systems listen to him? Because he is saying something that Trump disagrees with? That is ridiculous... and once again, Trump is irresponsible and irrational for making these stupid threats.
 
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Weezer said:
Here's the thing, I'm not even disagreeing with you on Trump's behavior. He's over the top and in over his head. But, you've completely ignored outrageous behavior from Pelosi and other Democrats, who are only focused on making sure Trump is not re-elected. So why is his behavior unacceptable but their behavior acceptable? Because politics? If that's the answer, then just say it. Just say, "Weezer, I'm a left leaning liberal that doesn't really care about bad behavior so much as I care about supporting those I share a political ideology with, no matter how they may act." It's okay if that's the truth. There are plenty on here, from both sides, who feel the same, who do the same. So if that's the case, just say it. Otherwise, please explain to me why you think it's okay for one side to act outrageously but totally indefensible for the other side to act similarly?
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The subject of this thread is Trump, our schools and the CDC. You are trying to change that subject to suit another argument about Democrats. I'm not taking the bait. The topic is Trump, and his leadership during this crisis. It has been abysmal.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Inexcusable that he is threatening to pull funds from public schools because they are making a decision which they consider to be in the best interest of the children's health and well-being? Yes, it most certainly is. This is not good leadership. The problem is, that there is not a consensus on the science. Dr. Fauci has expressed that school closings may be in order in some select places. Why shouldn't those school systems listen to him? Because he is saying something that Trump disagrees with? That is ridiculous... and once again, Trump is irresponsible and irrational for making these stupid threats.
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Trump is irresponsible and irrational, but not for pushing for schools to reopen. I look forward to your response the next time Democrats threaten funding to get their way. I'd like to believe it will be consistent with the view expressed here, but we both know it won't be.
 
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