Trump bullies the CDC and schools

#77
#77
The subject of this thread is Trump and the CDC. You are trying to change that subject to suit another argument about Democrats. I'm not taking the bait. The topic is Trump, and his leadership during this crisis. It has been abysmal.

When you ask questions or attempt conversation they want to avoid...

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#78
#78
Trump is irresponsible and irrational, but not for pushing for schools to reopen. I look forward to your response the next time Democrats threaten funding to get their way. I'd like to believe it will be consistent with the view expressed here, but we both know it won't be.
No, Trump is irresponsible and irrational for threatening to pull funding from them unless they reopen, regardless of what advice they are getting from the CDC.
 
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#81
The subject of this thread is Trump, our schools and the CDC. You are trying to change that subject to suit another argument about Democrats. I'm not taking the bait. The topic is Trump, and his leadership during this crisis. It has been abysmal.
It's what he does and accuses others of deflecting.
 
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#83
No, Trump is irresponsible and irrational for threatening to pull funding from them unless they reopen, regardless of what advice they are getting from the CDC.
Is it ever appropriate to threaten to pull federal money from school districts?
 
#84
#84
Schools should be open and I know I'm sending mine. Kids aren't getting this. Kids aren't transmitting this to others

This is the exact opposite of what Cuomo did that cost thousands of lives and the left cheered him
Exactly! How he’s getting such a pass on his nursing home/Covid policy is beyond logical comprehension. If anyone has blood on their hands it’s him.
 
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#85
Is it ever appropriate to threaten to pull federal money from school districts?
Not under any normal circumstance. No. If there was some extreme example of funds being misappropriated, maybe... but that would always be rare.
 
#87
#87
You mean when you stay on the topic of the thread? You try to hijack every Trump thread with a game of "what-about-ism" about the Democrats.
Yes, and you(and Mick and luther) never bring Trump into threads where he's not the subject. Conversation evolves, otherwise each thread would only last a few pages.
 
#88
#88
It seems to me that trump made his announcement based off recommendations from AAP and even from input from Fauci and HHS (ie “science.”) Then certain politicians and teachers unions came out against his announcement and that’s when he threatened funding.

Is my timeline off?
 
#89
#89
Never ceases to amaze me that those who advocate vesting more and more control in the Federal government are surprised when that power gets exercised. Sane people might step back and question the wisdom of vesting more power in the Federal government but the advocates always seem to fall back on some fantasy that the "right leader" would only use the power for good.

Reaping and Sowing
 
#90
#90
No, Trump is irresponsible and irrational for threatening to pull funding from them unless they reopen, regardless of what advice they are getting from the CDC.

You think if Biden wins he wouldn’t be pushing for schools and the economy to open ASAP?
 
#93
#93
I would think pediatricians have some credibility here. Or do only expert agreeing with you matter?


Like I say, go to the CDC and make their case. Might be a good one.

Does not excuse Trump's egomaniacal bullying of the CDC in the meantime.

But you know that. You are grasping for straws to deflect from how absolutely horrible Trump is acting.
 
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Is it ever appropriate to threaten to pull federal money from school districts?

The threat is there each time the DoEd makes new mandates. It's the enforcement mechanism - you want the money, you follow the rules.

The "dear colleague" Title IX letter of Obama fame was based on threats of pulling funding. Make these changes (horrible changes as we've now seen) or lose funding.

We've seen it from HUD under Obama (and Biden has vowed to bring it back), DoT that I can think of.
 
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The threat is there each time the DoEd makes new mandates. It's the enforcement mechanism - you want the money, you follow the rules.

The "dear colleague" Title IX letter of Obama fame was based on threats of pulling funding. Make these changes (horrible changes as we've now seen) or lose funding.

We've seen it from HUD under Obama (and Biden has vowed to bring it back), DoT that I can think of.
@BowlBrother85 says that's irrational and irresponsible.
 
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#96
The threat is there each time the DoEd makes new mandates. It's the enforcement mechanism - you want the money, you follow the rules.

The "dear colleague" Title IX letter of Obama fame was based on threats of pulling funding. Make these changes (horrible changes as we've now seen) or lose funding.

We've seen it from HUD under Obama (and Biden has vowed to bring it back), DoT that I can think of.
This is a crock.
 
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Like I say, go to the CDC and make their case. Might be a good one.

Does not excuse Trump's egomaniacal bullying of the CDC in the meantime.

But you know that. You are grasping for straws to deflect from how absolutely horrible Trump is acting.
That is the only way Trump knows to handle people who disagree with him. The only "art of persuasion" he knows is the use of threats designed to intimidate. This is not leadership.
 

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