Trump Leading Witness Revenge Acts

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vols40 said:
Ok maybe I am missing who exactly you are talking about specifically
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Sondland. He had various extremely minor roles in government but is in no way a career diplomat. He wasn’t a diplomat until Trump made him one. Which, as is par for the course, wasn’t until he steered tons of money to Trumps election effort.
 
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Gordon Sondland was also fired today. According to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Gordon Sondland was 1 of only 47 people to donate $1 million or more to Donald Trump's presidential inaugural committee in 2017. Not all of Sondland's testimony before the House Oversight Committee reflected poorly on Donald Trump. Sondland was hired by Trump in the first place. He was a major supporter of Trump.

Gordon Sondland is a wealthy person. He doesn't need a job. However, such retaliation is both petty and vindictive. More than anything else, it just makes Trump look small.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Gordon Sondland was also fired today. According to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Gordon Sondland was 1 of only 47 people to donate $1 million or more to Trump's presidential inaugural committee in 2017. Not all of Sondland's testimony before the House Oversight Committee reflected poorly on Donald Trump. He was a major supporter of Trump.

Gordon Sondland is a wealthy person. He doesn't need a job. However, such retaliation is both petty and vindictive. More than anything else, it just makes Trump look small.
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Like pre-tearing a speech on the down low and then tearing it show the world your temper tantrum?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is nothing more than "what-about-ism". This is not a defense of Donald Trump's own petty and vindictive conduct.
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Not really. He has a right to hire and fire whoever the hell he wants for whatever reason. The way he’s been treated I don’t blame him a bit for getting rid of anyone who is trying to undermine him or have him removed from office even those he would suspect of doing so. The s*** they come up with is pettiness. Nancy’s temper tantrum was pettiness. You want Trump’s actions to be pettiness but really have no f****** clue.
 
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C-south said:
Not really. He has a right to hire and fire whoever the hell he wants for whatever reason. The way he’s been treated I don’t blame him a bit for getting rid of anyone who is trying to undermine him or have him removed from office even those he would suspect of doing so. The s*** they come up with is pettiness. Nancy’s temper tantrum was pettiness. You want Trump’s actions to be pettiness but really have no f****** clue.
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That is not what Gordon Sondland was trying to do.
 
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volfanhill said:
Sondland. He had various extremely minor roles in government but is in no way a career diplomat. He wasn’t a diplomat until Trump made him one. Which, as is par for the course, wasn’t until he steered tons of money to Trumps election effort.
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Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want a quid pro quo. He also testified it was his interpretation the money was tied to investigation.
And make ambassadorships are handed out to donors.
 
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vols40 said:
Sondland said Trump told him he didn't want a quid pro quo. He also testified it was his interpretation the money was tied to investigation.
And make ambassadorships are handed out to donors.
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So Trump fired him why? And I already stated that giving those positions to donors was common. It sure as hell isn’t draining that swamp type behavior. But as I understand Trumps swamp behavior is to be ignored as he drains the rest of it. Which makes total sense.
 
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volinbham said:
Never doubt the DNC machine. Biden is toast. DNC may rally behind her.
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She and Biden are the only moderates running with any chance. Like you said Biden is toast. Wouldn’t be shocked to see the DNC try to give her a helping hand.
 
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vols40 said:
And yet he serves at the pleasure of the President. One more weak post by you.
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Sure he does. That doesn’t make the President above criticism for his decisions. Just bc he can make one doesn’t mean it’s justifiable.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Then he should have kept his big mouth shut!
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It is quite a statement that you think he did something wrong by complying with a subpoena. The question of whether or not his testimony was truthful doesn't seem to even be under consideration. He testified to some information that was damaging to dear leader and so that means he deserves whatever act of vengeance that Trump hands out. That is how an authoritarian state works, where the unconditional support and defense of the country's leadership is demanded, and all dissidents are punished with no regard for whether or not they have told the truth. The United States should be better than that.
 
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volfanhill said:
So Trump fired him why? And I already stated that giving those positions to donors was common. It sure as hell isn’t draining that swamp type behavior. But as I understand Trumps swamp behavior is to be ignored as he drains the rest of it. Which makes total sense.
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Nice try lib. The president can fire Sondland if he grows hair if he wants.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
You really need to find another excuse when people call you on your tripe.
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That's just it. The poster I replied to didn't call me out on anything. He didn't dispute a single thing that I said. He just changed the subject to Nancy Pelosi. That is a clear cut example of "what-about-ism".
 
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volfanhill said:
Sure he does. That doesn’t make the President above criticism for his decisions. Just bc he can make one doesn’t mean it’s justifiable.
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I am way more than ok with this. But when you go if the track insinuating something nefarious with no evidence it shows your lack of interest and more your wish for more Schift.
 
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vols40 said:
Nice try lib. The president can fire Sondland if he grows hair if he wants.
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Not a lib. But I know that’s Trump supporters programmed default mode if someone dislikes him. Now I have never said he doesn’t have the right to fire him. Doesn’t mean it can’t be criticized. Nor does it support the absurd notion that he’s “draining the swamp.” He’s as corrupt as the rest. And the fact you don’t see it makes you laughable.
 
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vols40 said:
Nice try lib. The president can fire Sondland if he grows hair if he wants.
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I didn't say that he couldn't. I just said that it makes Trump look vindictive, petty and small. Gordon Sondland donated $1 million to Trump. He was 1 of only 47 people to do so. He is not a Democrat or a "never Trumper".
 
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volfanhill said:
Not a lib. But I know that’s Trump supporters programmed default mode if someone dislikes him. Now I have never said he doesn’t have the right to fire him. Doesn’t mean it can’t be criticized. Nor does it support the absurd notion that he’s “draining the swamp.” He’s as corrupt as the rest. And the fact you don’t see it makes you laughable.
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I haven't read through the whole thread. Has someone actually called it that? That is beyond ridiculous. Donald Trump appointed Gordon Sondland to his position in the first place. This is one of his own donors for crying out loud. That is like taking credit for putting out a fire you started.
 
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