Trump promises and proposals tracking thread.

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McDad said:
It was suggested we track and monitor what was said he'd do by his opponents.
This section can be for that if we want.

1. Internment camps
2. US AD Military used against its own people
3. Federal Abortion Ban
4. Right(s) being stripped away
5. Illegalized interracial marriage
6. US Dictatorship installed
7. Last election
8. Agenda 2025 implementation

(waiting on verification these came from the political opponent or surrogates and not celebrities, talkiing heads, etc)
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Giving you a like on that first post as that’s an impressive list that took a ton of time and will take a bunch of time to update as we move forward. I doubt this post gets updated much.
 
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Dictator and use of Military comments.


Since Trump stated he would be a dictator on day one, this isn't on Kamala, sort of. She presented his comment as if he was going to be a dictator over the country. I took his comment as him being a figurative dictator over the Executive Branch.

I'll report, y'all decide. :)
 
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malinoisvol said:
Dictator and use of Military comments.


Since Trump stated he would be a dictator on day one, this isn't on Kamala, sort of. She presented his comment as if he was going to be a dictator over the country. I took his comment as him being a figurative dictator over the Executive Branch.

I'll report, y'all decide. :)
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I'll add verified by you in post #2
 
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Found a video of Trump speaking about his "plan". In that moment he mentioned several tax items, including 15% corp tax for companies manufacture in USA.

@BigOrangeMojo, @volfanhill, @85SugarVol, @Septic, @volinbham want to pick your brains here. We are trying to be fair with djt (knowing he says a bunch of crap) with what constitutes a promise / pledge / proposal. Is a "plan" the same level of assurance as a promise or proposal? Or is a plan less of a standard of expectation to keep him to?
TIA.



plan = promise
For: 2
Against: 1
 
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McDad said:
Found a video of Trump speaking about his "plan". In that moment he mentioned several tax items, including 15% corp tax for companies manufacture in USA.

@BigOrangeMojo, @volfanhill, @85SugarVol, @Septic, @volinbham want to pick your brains here. We are trying to be fair with djt (knowing he says a bunch of crap) with what constitutes a promise / pledge / proposal. Is a "plan" the same level of assurance as a promise or proposal? Or is a plan less of a standard of expectation to keep him to?
TIA.

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A "plan" with some level of detail that is repeated more than once is a pledge/promise...

An off the cuff comment can be different..
 
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Eliminate DEI in federal employment

www.yahoo.com

Trump vows to eliminate diversity programs

STORY: During a rally in Philadelphia, Trump promised to eliminate all diversity, equity and inclusion programs "across the entire federal government.”The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday struck down race-conscious admissions programs at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
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McDad said:
Found a video of Trump speaking about his "plan". In that moment he mentioned several tax items, including 15% corp tax for companies manufacture in USA.

@BigOrangeMojo, @volfanhill, @85SugarVol, @Septic, @volinbham want to pick your brains here. We are trying to be fair with djt (knowing he says a bunch of crap) with what constitutes a promise / pledge / proposal. Is a "plan" the same level of assurance as a promise or proposal? Or is a plan less of a standard of expectation to keep him to?
TIA.



plan = promise
For: 2
Against:
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Pledge/Promise is - “I’m going to do this”

A Plan is usually a series of objectives that if executed could lead to success.

I’ve got a plan on how to beat Georgia.
I can’t promise you that it will work.

Depending on how well the plan is fleshed out, and how often it is communicated, I guess would indicate if it is closer to a “promise” or an “idea”.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Pledge/Promise is - “I’m going to do this”

A Plan is usually a series of objectives that if executed could lead to success.

I’ve got a plan on how to beat Georgia.
I can’t promise you that it will work.

Depending on how well the plan is fleshed out, and how often it is communicated, I guess would indicate if it is closer to a “promise” or an “idea”.
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thank you. updating the vote.
 
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McDad said:
would you mind sourcing those? I'll put those on the op list and modify as needed.
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From the Trump-Harris debate transcript:

"Obamacare was lousy health care," Trump said during the debate. "Always was. It's not very good today. And what I said, that if we come up with something, and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going to replace it.”
 
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OHvol40 said:
From the Trump-Harris debate transcript:

"Obamacare was lousy health care," Trump said during the debate. "Always was. It's not very good today. And what I said, that if we come up with something, and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going to replace it.”
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Thank you. If you haven't looked at our OP, please do. See what you think about this quote meeting a fair standard of promise/pledge/or proposal.

I don't personally think it does...but I am trying to not be the arbiter of what is/isn't on our list.
 
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McDad said:
would you mind sourcing those? I'll put those on the op list and modify as needed.
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For the child tax credit, the Trump campaign never released specifics (shocked that they lack detail… absolutely shocked), but both Vance and Trump have stated multiple times to the affirmative that they are in favor of expanding the child tax credit, and Vance floated a number of $5000 per child. Here is an AP article discussing:

apnews.com

Trump and Harris both support a bigger child tax credit. But which families should get it?

Never before in a presidential election cycle has there been so much discussion of the child tax credit — a tool many Democrats and Republicans have endorsed as a way to lift children and young families out of poverty.
apnews.com apnews.com
 
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