Trump promises and proposals tracking thread.

#251
#251
McDad said:
Thank you. If you haven't looked at our OP, please do. See what you think about this quote meeting a fair standard of promise/pledge/or proposal.

I don't personally think it does...but I am trying to not be the arbiter of what is/isn't on our list.
Click to expand...
Well, Trump talks in circles, so it’s difficult to parse a “promise” from his verbal quotes, but I personally don’t think non-comital answers attempting to placate party/constituents releases an office-holder from “almost promises” on a campaign trail. If it does let them off the hook according to our standards, then our standards are not high enough. My 2 cents anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sudden Impact
#252
#252
OHvol40 said:
For the child tax credit, the Trump campaign never released specifics (shocked that they lack detail… absolutely shocked), but both Vance and Trump have stated multiple times to the affirmative that they are in favor of expanding the child tax credit, and Vance floated a number of $5000 per child. Here is an AP article discussing:

apnews.com

Trump and Harris both support a bigger child tax credit. But which families should get it?

Never before in a presidential election cycle has there been so much discussion of the child tax credit — a tool many Democrats and Republicans have endorsed as a way to lift children and young families out of poverty.
apnews.com apnews.com
Click to expand...
That's the challenge with this effort. A lot is said. But what is considered a proposal/ pledge/ or promise is difficult.

Please look at op on this one too. See if it's up to the "standard".
 
#253
#253
OHvol40 said:
Well, Trump talks in circles, so it’s difficult to parse a “promise” from his verbal quotes, but I personally don’t think non-comital answers attempting to placate to party/constituents releases an office-holder from “almost promises” on a campaign trail. If it does let them off the hook according to our standards, then our standards are not high enough. My 2 cents anyway.
Click to expand...
I've tried to only include things which are a direct quote of DJT, on his official releases, or by his surrogates.
This is a pita to build and track already. For nothing more than laziness I dont wanna track 'almost-promises'.

I'll ask others to consider it, too.

Thanks.
 
  • Like
Reactions: OHvol40
#258
#258
@BigOrangeMojo
Since the 15% tax was a promise, makes sense to add extend tjca since they were usually discussed together, agree?
 
#261
#261
McDad said:
I've tried to only include things which are a direct quote of DJT, on his official releases, or by his surrogates.
This is a pita to build and track already. For nothing more than laziness I dont wanna track 'almost-promises'.

I'll ask others to consider it, too.

Thanks.
Click to expand...
I looked at the CTC when this thread started. It doesn't meet the threshold IMO
 
  • Like
Reactions: McDad
#262
#262
McDad said:
Please source, AV. Thanks.
Click to expand...
“While Trump has said he will not try again to repeal the Affordable Care Act, his administration will face an immediate decision next year on whether to back an extension of enhanced premium subsidies for Obamacare insurance plans.”

iowacapitaldispatch.com

Trump’s White House return poised to tangle health care safety net • Iowa Capital Dispatch

Donald Trump’s election victory will likely bring changes that scale back the nation’s public health insurance programs.
iowacapitaldispatch.com iowacapitaldispatch.com
 
#263
#263
AirVol said:
Trump never said he’d replace Obamacare. He said it needed tweaked in areas
Click to expand...
On November 29, 2023, he wrote, “I don’t want to terminate Obamacare, I want to REPLACE IT with MUCH BETTER HEALTHCARE. Obamacare Sucks!!!”


www.nbcnews.com

Trump doubles down, saying ‘Obamacare Sucks’ and must be replaced

Despite the GOP 2024 front-runner's call, congressional Republicans are divided on whether to pick that battle again after they tried and failed to eliminate the law in 2017.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
#265
#265
McDad said:
Found a video of Trump speaking about his "plan". In that moment he mentioned several tax items, including 15% corp tax for companies manufacture in USA.

@BigOrangeMojo, @volfanhill, @85SugarVol, @Septic, @volinbham want to pick your brains here. We are trying to be fair with djt (knowing he says a bunch of crap) with what constitutes a promise / pledge / proposal. Is a "plan" the same level of assurance as a promise or proposal? Or is a plan less of a standard of expectation to keep him to?
TIA.



plan = promise
For: 2
Against: 1
Click to expand...


I think that to him, a plan means he's going to do it. "Concepts of a plan" means he doesn't even understand what the subject is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: McDad
#268
#268
Septic said:
Says "ALL" taxes, I wonder if that also includes payroll taxes for the employer.
Click to expand...
I have no idea. Is it even possible to consider no income, SS, medicare taxes on overtime???

No tax on OT is on the OP list. If clarity is available, we can update.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top