Trump Promises Big Action (on School Prayer)

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luthervol said:
He is the most non-spiritual person to ever hold the office. (excluding self-worship)
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Ronald Reagan has to be right up there with Trump. No knock on Pres. Ronnie, but he hadn't darkened the doors of a church - unless it was about politics - since the 1940s.
 
#77
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0nelilreb said:
... And if Hillary didn’t get out worked on the trail , he wouldn’t have beat number 17 . That’s pretty impressive to beat out 17 people with one being the heir apparent to the thrown .
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I'm not sure impressive is the word I would use. I'll stick with bizarre and inexplicable.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Ahhh but you didn’t , I did , Knocking off 17 opponents that are better than you is impressive . I may just be easily impressed .
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I can understand that perspective. Can you understand the perspective of the non-Trumpers who look at him knocking off 17 opponents that are much better than him and think, WTH is wrong with Trumpers?
 
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luthervol said:
I can understand that perspective. Can you understand the perspective of the non-Trumpers who look at him knocking off 17 opponents that are much better than him and think, WTH is wrong with Trumpers?
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Yes and no . I try to look inward when I fail at something . That’s the part that I don’t understand about the left after 2016. Instead of saying how did we fail to get the Oval against Trump with what most of the country thought was the best candidate , the left says it wasn’t us it was the Trumpers . How do you fail at something that was set up in your favor and blame the other team ? 🤷‍♂️
 
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0nelilreb said:
Yes and no . I try to look inward when I fail at something . That’s the part that I don’t understand about the left after 2016. Instead of saying how did we fail to get the Oval against Trump with what most of the country thought was the best candidate , the left says it wasn’t us it was the Trumpers . How do you fail at something that was set up in your favor and blame the other team ? 🤷‍♂️
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There has been plenty of introspection.
None of that explains the dynamics of Trump winning the republican nomination. None of that explains why such a surprising percentage of the American public would so fervently and cultishly support a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
That is a completely separate issue from the mistakes Hillary made in her campaign.
 
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luthervol said:
There has been plenty of introspection.
None of that explains the dynamics of Trump winning the republican nomination. None of that explains why such a surprising percentage of the American public would so fervently and cultishly support a candidate as horrendously despicable as Trump.
That is a completely separate issue from the mistakes Hillary made in her campaign.
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Ahhh .. but if Hillary hadn’t gotten lazy ( see Wisconsin) the Trump cult you speak of would be no more than a Bernie bro in comparison . Hillary fumbled the ball on the 1 yrd line , Trump recovers it , wins the game , and the left blames the Trump cult . That just baffles me .
 
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Matt2496 said:
This is dumb. Doing something like this only caters to one part of his constituency, while simultaneously alienating moderates.

State-sanctioned prayer is a big, fat NO from me.
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Somebody needs to grab embrace the pssys of that portion of the electorate too.
 
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LouderVol said:
Which is why I am fine with electives. If they want those extra classes, offer them. Dont require them. Another thing allowing specialization will do is segregate the populations. If the minority religions only go to certain schools there will never being any type of integration of cultures and the government shouldnt be fostering the differences in people.

I have always felt racism stems from fear, and fear comes from ignorance. It's only by knowing people that we actually learn how to interact with them. How we can learn what is appropriate instead of just being PC'd to death. Once we get to know people it allows us to see they arent that different than us. But of we keep them separate those differences get magnified through the optics of ignorance.
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That's a good perspective. We could look back to America's own history to validate what you're offering. However, on my end of the discussion, the world is the smallest it has ever been. Kids are exposed to different people, cultures, ideas much more often and much more frequently than they used to be.
i grew up in a time and in a public school where a faculty member lead the morning prayer and the pledge of allegiance. Somewhere along the way (middle school, maybe) the prayer changed to a moment of silence. I see value in prayer even if the prayer isn't aligned with my faith.
 
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McDad said:
That's a good perspective. We could look back to America's own history to validate what you're offering. However, on my end of the discussion, the world is the smallest it has ever been. Kids are exposed to different people, cultures, ideas much more often and much more frequently than they used to be.
i grew up in a time and in a public school where a faculty member lead the morning prayer and the pledge of allegiance. Somewhere along the way (middle school, maybe) the prayer changed to a moment of silence. I see value in prayer even if the prayer isn't aligned with my faith.
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About 20-25 years ago, when the county was more rural, traditional, and conservative; the school system mounted a framed poster in every classroom of the American flag blowing in the wind with the words "In God We Trust" overlaid in large, bold golden letters. Within a couple of years, most every teacher had rightfully removed the poster.
 
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McDad said:
That's a good perspective. We could look back to America's own history to validate what you're offering. However, on my end of the discussion, the world is the smallest it has ever been. Kids are exposed to different people, cultures, ideas much more often and much more frequently than they used to be.
i grew up in a time and in a public school where a faculty member lead the morning prayer and the pledge of allegiance. Somewhere along the way (middle school, maybe) the prayer changed to a moment of silence. I see value in prayer even if the prayer isn't aligned with my faith.
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I grew up the same way. Every morning in elementary school we stood for the pledge and a prayer led by the faculty over the intercom. I didn't think anything about it then but now realize how ostracized a Jewish or any other faith kid might feel. Where I grew up you were either Methodist, Baptist or weird.
 
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hog88 said:
I grew up the same way. Every morning in elementary school we stood for the pledge and a prayer led by the faculty over the intercom. I didn't think anything about it then but now realize how ostracized a Jewish or any other faith kid might feel. Where I grew up you were either Methodist, Baptist or weird.
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No C of C? You were all heathens.
 
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hog88 said:
I dated a Pentecostal once, one Sunday going to church with her ended that relationship.
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Are they the speaking in tongues people? If so, I had that exact same experience. Weirdest thing I ever witnessed in my life (up to Nov. 2016). I was never able to view the girl the same.
 
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