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Obama - Putin attacks UkraineI guess he needed to grab a headline. He hasn't had one since his last round of Putin azz kissing.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/politics/trump-sues-hillary-clinton/index.html
Lol. I guess anything Trump does is thread worthy. We all know how this is gonna go. Clinton is an untouchable. This will go nowhere. So I guess we should care about this right?
That they do. Lies are usually about campaign promises but Biden lies about everything, including how he met his wife, college, and basically anything that comes out of his mouth.
IMHO there are way too damn many untouchables in this country that are above the law.Lol. I guess anything Trump does is thread worthy. We all know how this is gonna go. Clinton is an untouchable. This will go nowhere. So I guess we should care about this right?
Sure Trump lied. Like you said, they all do. He also uses hyperbole a lot and jokes a lot. What’s funny is people like CNN and MSNBC would lose their minds over the hyperbole and jokes, fact check them, and count each one as another lie. Yet over and over they had no problem lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville and Russian collusion. I know the man lies and I agree that politicians on either side can’t be trusted but the difference in how the media treats Biden vs how they treated Trump is despicable. The way the MSM no longer actually reports news and they’re nothing more than activists should be alarming to everyone. CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter, and many others conspired to affect the Presidential race by suppressing stories that would hurt Biden and reporting things about Trump that they knew weren’t true and without checking any sources on things they weren’t sure about. Of course it’s not just Trump they do that too. We see it over and over again. We are in dangerous times and as long as Biden and the Dems keep promising free crap then a good chunk of the population will remain blissfully ignorant and keep allowing more and more government control and influence.You can truthfully say the same thing about most politicians, and especially of Trump. So much so he was less a President than a Liarindent. His lies are even documented. Many of these lies, I watched him state on national TV in real time. L1 L2 L3 L4 {Commentary}
I don't hate Trump, I simply don't trust him. But then again, I don't trust any politician. If he was barely hanging on for dear life at the edge of a cliff, I'd do my damnest to try to help him to safety, even though I believe he'd just laugh at me and probably stomp on my fingers if the situation was reversed. He hides information that could make his opponents and haters look like fools if that information exonerated him. He hides information because if made known, they'd show him to be dishonest about so much, his college grades, his financial record, sex with underage girls, and more. If he was innocent, revealing this information would crush his critics, and I, for one, would jump on board and become a rabid supporter of his. I know one thing above all else, people dislike the truth unless it either flatters them or disparages someone else. So for me, his lies in volume, repetition, and type tells me all I need to know about the man. Yet, I do not hate him, I just don't trust him.
Sure Trump lied. Like you said, they all do. He also uses hyperbole a lot and jokes a lot. What’s funny is people like CNN and MSNBC would lose their minds over the hyperbole and jokes, fact check them, and count each one as another lie. Yet over and over they had no problem lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville and Russian collusion. I know the man lies and I agree that politicians on either side can’t be trusted but the difference in how the media treats Biden vs how they treated Trump is despicable. The way the MSM no longer actually reports news and they’re nothing more than activists should be alarming to everyone. CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter, and many others conspired to affect the Presidential race by suppressing stories that would hurt Biden and reporting things about Trump that they knew weren’t true and without checking any sources on things they weren’t sure about. Of course it’s not just Trump they do that too. We see it over and over again. We are in dangerous times and as long as Biden and the Dems keep promising free crap then a good chunk of the population will remain blissfully ignorant and keep allowing more and more government control and influence.
Sure Trump lied. Like you said, they all do. He also uses hyperbole a lot and jokes a lot. What’s funny is people like CNN and MSNBC would lose their minds over the hyperbole and jokes, fact check them, and count each one as another lie. Yet over and over they had no problem lying about what Trump said about Charlottesville and Russian collusion. I know the man lies and I agree that politicians on either side can’t be trusted but the difference in how the media treats Biden vs how they treated Trump is despicable. The way the MSM no longer actually reports news and they’re nothing more than activists should be alarming to everyone. CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter, and many others conspired to affect the Presidential race by suppressing stories that would hurt Biden and reporting things about Trump that they knew weren’t true and without checking any sources on things they weren’t sure about. Of course it’s not just Trump they do that too. We see it over and over again. We are in dangerous times and as long as Biden and the Dems keep promising free crap then a good chunk of the population will remain blissfully ignorant and keep allowing more and more government control and influence.
The top legal work we've come to expect in a Trump lawsuit (when was the last time he won one?).
Repubs aren't innocent of the free crap stuff. Farmer subsidies, special tax and other exemptions for businesses who donate liberally to their campaigns, under the table funding and rewards for the same and each other, diverting SS funds into accounts that increase their wealth at the expense of us all. It's the very socialism that Republiars claim to be against, yet practice mostly covertly, but at times overtly, counting on sheeple to be ignorant about it, ignore it, or overlook it. Or benefit from it and keep quiet about it. And this is why I'm an independent voter, you can't trust any of them whether Democreeps or Republiars. Will Rogers was right: The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other.
It's those farm subsidies that keep food on city slicker tables (most libtards have no concept of the origin of the food they eat, at all). Giving people $1000 a week to own them and to stay home instead of working is the BS. Welfare is BS. Taxpayer money for gender studies is BS. None of those programs provide societal benefits. Farming feeds the world.
Hard to discourse with rightists without them offended by the truth. My point was the Republiars who claim to be against socialism, practice it themselves. In theory, capitalism means you stand or fall on your own merits. As a matter of fact, we do have something called corporate welfare so remember that when you talk about welfare. So if a farmer or any business falls, and you give them compensation for failure, it's socialism. I never said it was limited to that, the stuff you refer in your reply, you'd not get opposition from me because I think the same thing - without the insulting comments. Nonetheless, socialism is socialism by any other name. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. But as I tend to say: The truth isn't welcome by most people unless it flatters them or denigrates someone else.
Hard to discourse with rightists without them offended by the truth. My point was the Republiars who claim to be against socialism, practice it themselves. In theory, capitalism means you stand or fall on your own merits. As a matter of fact, we do have something called corporate welfare so remember that when you talk about welfare. So if a farmer or any business falls, and you give them compensation for failure, it's socialism. I never said it was limited to that, the stuff you refer in your reply, you'd not get opposition from me because I think the same thing - without the insulting comments. Nonetheless, socialism is socialism by any other name. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. But as I tend to say: The truth isn't welcome by most people unless it flatters them or denigrates someone else.
I'm all for removing all subsidies for agriculture but with that all price controls and market barriers need to be removed also.
I'm all for removing all subsidies for agriculture but with that all price controls and market barriers need to be removed also.
I miss the days when, as a child, farmer or one of his workers or family members drove a rickety old pickup down the street. Its bed loaded with produce, the driver leaning out the window yelling, "Cabbages, carrots, squash, tomatoes, melons, p[peaches, market man (or boy, whatever)!" Good eating back then. And no darn taxes, regulations and such until local polickerons put a stop to it when I was around 14 or 15, I think. Well, at least I live in a rural area where local farmers can set up booths at the park, and vacant lots where old time Woolworths and other five and ten cents stores used to be. Was a time you could drive along two lane country roads and buy stuff from roadside stands, hardly see them anymore now. I so wish polickerons had stayed the heck out of things.
I miss the days when, as a child, farmer or one of his workers or family members drove a rickety old pickup down the street. Its bed loaded with produce, the driver leaning out the window yelling, "Cabbages, carrots, squash, tomatoes, melons, peaches, market man (or boy, whatever)!" Good eating back then. And no darn taxes, regulations and such until local polickerons put a stop to it when I was around 14 or 15, I think. Well, at least I live in a rural area where local farmers can set up booths at the park, and vacant lots where old time Woolworths and other five and ten cents stores used to be. Was a time you could drive along two lane country roads and buy stuff from roadside stands, hardly see them anymore now. I so wish polickerons had stayed the heck out of things.
My hope in humanity is semi-restored, in the absence of the participation of certain posters, we've just engaged in real discourse rather than baseless insults and nothing more. THANKS. And I got an increased awareness of factors relevant to subsidies to boot.
Every Tennessee farmer I've known in the last 50 years has been a part-time farmer. I've baled a lot of hay and straw and cut tobacco, but every one of the guys I was doing it for was doing it after their regular job.No farmer is going to survive with that being their only source of income. And yes it's still legal in most places, my 2 sister in laws run a vegetable stand in the summer.
Well, 6 years later we are still having to listen to HRC pine about losing that election when it was her turn to be prez. There ought to be damages for that.Reading through that article, this was my main issue. He should have sued them for undermining his 2020 election campaign. He lost that one. Therefore, he could possibly prove damages. How do you quantify damages for the 2016 election, which he won?