Trump to sign national security funding bill, then declare State of Emergency

[hog88]

I respect your opinions, but why does the Congress not doing their job preclude the President from doing his job?

then he needs to publicly lay it at the feet of congress and explain it, not subvert the constitution.

He's 100% wrong if he declares a NE.

 

[tumscalcium]

I'll make a wager with you if it ever comes to that. I'd predict 75% of violence stems from wanting what someone else has (money, power, influence, territory, sex, etc) and the other 25% is just plain batshit Looney idiots with a screw loose.

This also explains liberals to the 100%.

 

[Stew Cook]

RE the funds:

1. Border Patrol and DHS have said more barriers are essential to help solve the problem. They are the experts (or at least more expert than Congress).
2. Dems have in the recent pass supported much more spending on barriers. As you suggest if the "wall" is a campaign issue then Dems are willfully ignoring experts and what they supported recently to prevent Trump from getting some political benefits.

Congress is acting poorly and if Trump does the Emergency thing then he is acting poorly. Neither are being responsible and there's no justification for the actions of either.

Unless I'm getting you wrong, you're saying Congress should just go with whatever DHS requests. I would agree with you if Trump wasn't putting his thumb on the scale of DHS and Border Control to exaggerate the extent that additional security barriers are needed.

You know, the latest Bill didn't just pull a number out of thin air, as to the amount that Congress felt immediately warranted. They've given more that the previous Congress, no?

 

[Mick]

Unless I'm getting you wrong, you're saying Congress should just go with whatever DHS requests. I would agree with you if Trump wasn't putting his thumb on the scale of DHS and Border Control to exaggerate the extent that additional security barriers are needed.

You know, the latest Bill didn't just pull a number out of thin air, as to the amount that Congress felt immediately warranted. They've given more that the previous Congress, no?

That's why they have oversight if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Electric Orange]

This bill is not one that should be signed.

 

[carlos86]

 

[FLVOL69]

Duh, he’s got enough funding to keep the wall going until they get a decision from the Supreme Court which I’m sure will go his way. # Winning!

 

[Rishvol]

Duh, he’s got enough funding to keep the wall going until they get a decision from the Supreme Court which I’m sure will go his way. # Winning!

Don't forget seizure of El Chapos moneys

 

[FLVOL69]

Don't forget seizure of El Chapos moneys

Great point , Obama would give forfeitures to radical leftist groups so I don’t really see a problem with using seized drug money to help prevent future trafficking.

 

[volfanhill]

Don't forget seizure of El Chapos moneys

I don’t think that money just goes to him to decide how to spend.

 

[volfanhill]

Duh, he’s got enough funding to keep the wall going until they get a decision from the Supreme Court which I’m sure will go his way. # Winning!

With as many legal challenges as this will face, outside even the initial emergency challenge, he will have to win re-election to have it built. I am not saying he won’t win.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Build the Wall and end the illegal immigration and dry up that Democrat Voting Pool.

 

[volinbham]

Unless I'm getting you wrong, you're saying Congress should just go with whatever DHS requests. I would agree with you if Trump wasn't putting his thumb on the scale of DHS and Border Control to exaggerate the extent that additional security barriers are needed.

You know, the latest Bill didn't just pull a number out of thin air, as to the amount that Congress felt immediately warranted. They've given more that the previous Congress, no?

I'm not saying they should go with whatever DHS says - however they are in a much better position to say what would be effective and where the need lies no?

If you are suggesting that the Dems position is based on what is really needed rather than some political pissing match then I don't know what to tell you.

When Schumer keeps blathering that it's for "fencing" not a "wall" that tells you exactly what the Dem objection is - Trump promised a wall and they want to stop him from fulfilling a promise. When Dems say walls aren't effective but then support "fences" it defies logic.

 

[volinbham]

Pelosi warns GOP: Next president could declare national emergency on guns

The interesting thing here is she is unintentionally admitting that gun control is not a national emergency

 

[Grand Vol]

The interesting thing here is she is unintentionally admitting that gun control is not a national emergency

Shhhhh!

Don't tell her that.

 

[volfanhill]

The interesting thing here is she is unintentionally admitting that gun control is not a national emergency

Good point

 

[volinbham]

I agree - why didn't those bothered by Trump doing it now not say this about Obama then?

 

[FLVOL69]

With as many legal challenges as this will face, outside even the initial emergency challenge, he will have to win re-election to have it built. I am not saying he won’t win.

He’s got enough funding to continue construction until the Supreme Court rules in his favor, this in addition to a favorable economy and an abundance of weak socialist opponents will guarantee a win .

 

[FLVOL69]

The interesting thing here is she is unintentionally admitting that gun control is not a national emergency

Not to mention Trump is going to have the Supreme Court stacked, when and if they try to pull that ******** .

 

[Electric Orange]

Maybe Pelosi's attempt to scare people about gun control legislation would have more weight if even one of the Democratic candidates wasn't a complete @$$clown. Gotta win in 2020 first there dentures. Good luck with this current group of rejects.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Spending Bill Allows Mexican Cartel-Connected Texas Counties to Stop Border Wall

A key provision in the spending bill being presented to President Trump for signing stipulates that the federal government give specific Texas border counties the opportunity to derail any efforts to build barriers, fencing, or walls by simply opposing the construction of the border security measures–but many of the specified counties have a long and recent history of top officials taking bribes from the Mexican Gulf Cartel. Ultimately, the bill allows county offices with historic ties to the Gulf Cartel to stop U.S. border barriers from being constructed in the region.

Spending Bill Allows Mexican Cartel-Connected Texas Counties to Stop Border Wall

 

[Electric Orange]

This bill is horseship. This bill should NOT be signed whether an emergency is declared or not. Signing this is a mistake.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Experts: GOP/Dem Deal to Spark ‘Largest Surge’ of Young Border Crossers ‘Country Has Ever Seen’

A Republican-Democrat spending bill being offered to President Trump will spark the “largest surge” of young border crossers that “the country has ever seen,” immigration experts warn.

Pro-American immigration reformers and experts across the board are denouncing the spending package as a scheme to increase the illegal alien population, to provide a de facto amnesty to illegal aliens already living in the United States, and to expand the Catch and Release of border crossers.

• An expansion of Catch and Release
• A potential doubling of the annual low-skilled foreign workers imported to the U.S.
• Less detention space for border crossers
• An amnesty pipeline for Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) and their relatives
• Stipulations requiring local officials to approve all wall construction
• Chokeholds on immigration enforcement at the border and in the interior

Federation for American Immigration Reform President Dan Stein specifically called out the de facto AMNESTY included in the spending deal that would provide all illegal aliens with close relations to newly resettled UACs be shielded from deportation.

“In simple English, every new unaccompanied minor who arrives at our border will trigger an amnesty for multiple adult illegal aliens who are already in the country,” Stein said of the provision. “The illegal aliens who will be eligible for protection from removal include not just actual sponsors, but those who might be potential sponsors and every member of their households.”

President Trump should NOT sign this horrendous bill.

Experts: GOP/Dem Deal to Spark 'Largest Surge' Ever of Border Crossers

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

If the President wants to declare a National Emergency he should start with the debt and work down to lesser problems.

He is starting with the debt, by securing the border.