Trump's Taxes

#76
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Septic said:
Is it hypocritical to criticize others for doing the same thing he's doing?
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Again, there is a big difference between MAKING MONEY and paying low taxes versus LOSING MONEY and not paying taxes.

This is the same junk trotted out about corporations making huge profits and not paying taxes. The media will conveniently ignore that companies lost billions in 2008-2009 but then question why they weren't paying taxes in 2010. Operating losses offset operating gains. It's quite simple, and not a really out there concept.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Again, there is a big difference between MAKING MONEY and paying low taxes versus LOSING MONEY and not paying taxes.

This is the same junk trotted out about corporations making huge profits and not paying taxes. The media will conveniently ignore that companies lost billions in 2008-2009 but then question why they weren't paying taxes in 2010. Operating losses offset operating gains. It's quite simple, and not a really out there concept.
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I'll invite you to go back and read those tweets and tell me with a straight face that he's not advocating for others to pay there "fair share."

He's a hypocrite, beating up others for not paying enough sounds ALOT like Hillary. No?
 
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#79
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Septic said:
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Are you making an argument that him following the law could somehow be construed as unreasonable?

Look, you know me - I'd be the first to pile on Trump for crapping the bed. But outside of the hypocrisy of his tweets - he's not done anything any of us wouldn't have done.

I still maintain however, he is at least partially culpable for the deaths in Benghazi.
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Nice troll attempt.

I'm saying that there are a lot of people that would be considered reasonable who would criticize him relentlessly. Hell one of them is running for POTUS.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
So if a guy with a journalism degree and no business or tax experience was able to deduce all this, certainly the IRS should have put Trump in jail with all the actual facts. Yet here we are 20 years later and who knows how many audits and nothing has happened.
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He's not saying it's illegal. His point is about how the system works. Is Trump a good business man? He's big enough to get all these up front benefits not available to others and then he can write off the losses and save on taxes. There was basically no risk which means he's OK losing $900M. It's a ****ed up system and he knows how to manipulate it. Did he succeed by building useful businesses or did he succeed by bleeding the system? These are important questions
 
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#82
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Septic said:
Who cares about his taxes?

LOL, Trump was up at 3 am telling America to go watch porn.

Forget everything I've said... While this man child is unfit to even take a tour of the White House - I think it'd be pure comedic gold to have this buffoon in the headlines everyday.

If we're going to go down, we should go down laughing.
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Your going down?
 
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joevol320 said:
why is it despicable to use legal means to not pay FEDERAL TAXES. i bet he paid a crap load of city, county and state taxes. i applaud him for not wasting money to the fed gov god.
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Note to self: moochers and welfare queens - former conservative bugaboos - are now "smart," because they have figured out how to legally game the system, like Trump.

Trump is definitely the candidate of change. No other man could have made conservatives not conservative anymore.
 
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jackaro said:
So, let me get this straight: When someone earns too little money to pay taxes they are part of the 47% who are just takers and mooching off the rest of us. But when a billionaire does not have to pay income taxes for 18 years because of a monumental failure in managing his properties it's just fine. Is that about right?
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Yep, now if you have an issue with it, take it up with the people you have been electing to congress over the years - not the people who pay tax based on the law congress has written. We should have a flat tax with no exemptions - if anything, but then that would tie the hands of those in congress - hard to bribe someone who has nothing to offer in return.
 
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Another note to self: the Republican Party apparently no longer believes in personal responsibility and accountability anymore.

The two sides have reversed. Pretty soon, the Democrats will be talking about banning abortion, while the Republicans will be pro-choice.
 
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n_huffhines said:
He's not saying it's illegal. His point is about how the system works. Is Trump a good business man? He's big enough to get all these up front benefits not available to others and then he can write off the losses and save on taxes. There was basically no risk which means he's OK losing $900M. It's a ****ed up system and he knows how to manipulate it. Did he succeed by building useful businesses or did he succeed by bleeding the system? These are important questions
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How is there no risk? What system was bled? And if that system is still in existence why does it continue to do business with Trump?
 
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The stupid party strikes again. This isn't about whether what he did was legal or illegal, wise or morally wrong. It is about perception. Same with Romney in 2012.

Rightly or wrongly, the electorate has a deep distrust of Wall Street, banks, and the 1% crowd; especially after the Great Recession. The stupid party decided it would be a good idea to nominate a venture capitalist last election cycle and, if this is true, a supposed billionaire who hasn't paid federal income taxes in a couple decades this election cycle. Mind you, this comes during a time when electorate demographics and social issues are trending away from the party of stupid BUT also when the party of evil has nominated the worse candidate in recent memory.

In short, the party of stupid has to quit inflicting unforced errors if they want any legitimate shot at beating the party of evil in a Presidential race. If they nominated Rubio, they'd be strutting like Dion Sanders into the White House (and down ballot elections).
 
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OK, Everyone now knows Trump has paid little or no taxes for the last several years. He doesn't deny it and his lackeys praise him for it. It hasn't really hurt his candidacy.

So there should be no reason not to release his tax returns................... or is there?
 
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#92
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MT LeConte said:
OK, Everyone now knows Trump has paid little or no taxes for the last several years. He doesn't deny it and his lackeys praise him for it. It hasn't really hurt his candidacy.

So there should be no reason not to release his tax returns................... or is there?
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Not at all. Maybe he will if HC releases all those deleted emails, you know the ones about yoga, recipes and wedding planning. I don't see a problem at all if she complies too.
 
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AirVol said:
Not at all. Maybe he will if HC releases all those deleted emails, you know the ones about yoga, recipes and wedding planning. I don't see a problem at all if she complies too.
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She absolutely should. But I don't care that Trump paid no taxes and I don't care about her email problem. I've said several times on this forum the tax code is the problem. He just used it to his benefit.

Just for clarity he should release his return and if the emails are available she should release them.




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I find it amusing that the person running against Hillary and wanted to give away the farm did release his returns and has paid about 12% in taxes and not one word have I seen on that.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
The stupid party strikes again. This isn't about whether what he did was legal or illegal, wise or morally wrong. It is about perception. Same with Romney in 2012.

Rightly or wrongly, the electorate has a deep distrust of Wall Street, banks, and the 1% crowd; especially after the Great Recession. The stupid party decided it would be a good idea to nominate a venture capitalist last election cycle and, if this is true, a supposed billionaire who hasn't paid federal income taxes in a couple decades this election cycle. Mind you, this comes during a time when electorate demographics and social issues are trending away from the party of stupid BUT also when the party of evil has nominated the worse candidate in recent memory.

In short, the party of stupid has to quit inflicting unforced errors if they want any legitimate shot at beating the party of evil in a Presidential race. If they nominated Rubio, they'd be strutting like Dion Sanders into the White House (and down ballot elections).
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"Perception" is bull****. Reality is what should matter
 
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#97
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n_huffhines said:
What? Lol
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Ok so please elaborate. Everybody knows the rich people have always exploited the law to their favor. That includes Trump, Clinton and every other person who has a net worth over $1 million.

Do you honestly think Trump or Clintons personal tax returns are important? If so, why? Is it really going to tell us anytjing we dont already suspect or know? Honestly, on a scale of 1-10 where 10 is the most important and 1 is the least, where does candidates personal tax returns rate?
 
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MT LeConte said:
She absolutely should. But I don't care that Trump paid no taxes and I don't care about her email problem. I've said several times on this forum the tax code is the problem. He just used it to his benefit.

Just for clarity he should release his return and if the emails are available she should release them.




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I agree with you for once
 
#99
#99
PKT_VOL said:
The stupid party strikes again. This isn't about whether what he did was legal or illegal, wise or morally wrong. It is about perception. Same with Romney in 2012.

Rightly or wrongly, the electorate has a deep distrust of Wall Street, banks, and the 1% crowd; especially after the Great Recession. The stupid party decided it would be a good idea to nominate a venture capitalist last election cycle and, if this is true, a supposed billionaire who hasn't paid federal income taxes in a couple decades this election cycle. Mind you, this comes during a time when electorate demographics and social issues are trending away from the party of stupid BUT also when the party of evil has nominated the worse candidate in recent memory.

In short, the party of stupid has to quit inflicting unforced errors if they want any legitimate shot at beating the party of evil in a Presidential race. If they nominated Rubio, they'd be strutting like Dion Sanders into the White House (and down ballot elections).
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Well done.

I would also add, if the Repubs ever want to sustain themselves long-term, they need to drop the traditional values crap they preach. Like it or not, the demographics are changing and the baby boomers are about to start having less and less of an impact on elections.
 
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#100
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lol at people being mad at Trump for escaping taxes using the tax codes the Clinton's have had an affect on the past few decades.
 
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