TrumPutinGate

[hog88]

Again, I'm curious why the same rationale is not appropriate for states, or even counties. Why are states not allowed to have a county electoral college system? States are forced by law to count all votes equally. The federal government can have one type of election system and then turn around and deny states that same right. It seems all of you "states' rights" people would be bothered by this.

Any state can choose to alter its constitution/laws with regards to distribution of electoral votes.

 

[lawgator1]

The EC is ballyhooed as a means for the elites to save us from populist, but dangerous, people. If so, it failed. In fact, it did the opposite of what it was supposed to do.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Why do you want some counties in a state to be even more significantly powerful than other counties?

My question was, "if it's good for the nation, then why not the states?.

An electoral college in some states may actually be a good thing. Certain parts of California want to secede from Cali and become their own state. Do you know why? The liberal population in Southern Cal show-horns policy and ignored the completely different culture of guns/hunting up North.

Most of Illinois hate and resent Chicago-area. You know why? The city culture of one small area shoe-horns state policy for a completely different culture that makes up the rest of the state.

The electoral college is literally a bedrock that has kept our union intact, and you guys want to cry about it and do away with it because one criminal didn't get to take office in 2017. smh

 

[hog88]

Why do you want some counties in a state to be even more significantly powerful than other counties?

My question was, "if it's good for the nation, then why not the states?.

Any state that wants to adopt that system can, start lobbying for it and quit asking irrelevant questions.

 

[hog88]

The EC is ballyhooed as a means for the elites to save us from populist, but dangerous, people. If so, it failed. In fact, it did the opposite of what it was supposed to do.

The primary system is what failed not the EC, your statement would apply regardless which of the two had won.

 

[luthervol]

Any state can choose to alter its constitution/laws with regards to distribution of electoral votes.

No they can't. They've tried and lost in the federal courts.

 

[luthervol]

Because the electoral college is seeking equal representation between states at the federal level, as opposed to equal representation between people at the local level.

The Union would never have happened, nor survived if the electoral college was not implemented. If federal policy was shoved down state throats due to population differences, those states would take their ball and go.

You guys and gals that are screeching about the electoral college, I'll bet it's a very recent phenom. I wonder why...

If you live in California and don't like that Wyoming gets a higher representation per person, quit crying and move to Wyoming.

What are your thoughts on equal representation of counties at the state level? (When voting for a governor)

 

[luthervol]

I don't. You do.

What's good for Cali may not be good for Idaho.

Bottom line, two cities or two states shouldn't control the entire country.

I think I saw at one point that you live in Savannah. The Atlanta area has a far greater impact on the governor's race than Savannah or any other region in GA. Good or bad? What happened to the county unit system that GA tried to use?

 

[Velo Vol]

This is all beside the point.

Republicans like the electoral college because they can finish second and still win. That's all that matters to them.

They've only gotten the most votes in one election since 1988.

 

[luthervol]

This is all beside the point.

Republicans like the electoral college because they can finish second and still win. That's all that matters to them.

They've only gotten the most votes in one election since 1988.

That is 100% true. I just get a kick of how they defend it like it's some beautifully genius concept but then can never defend why the concept doesn't translate to the state level. I think they also realize they would have absolutely no chance in future elections without the electoral college loophole.

 

[Orange_Crush]

An electoral college in some states may actually be a good thing. Certain parts of California want to secede from Cali and become their own state. Do you know why? The liberal population in Southern Cal show-horns policy and ignored the completely different culture of guns/hunting up North.

Most of Illinois hate and resent Chicago-area. You know why? The city culture of one small area shoe-horns state policy for a completely different culture that makes up the rest of the state.

The electoral college is literally a bedrock that has kept our union intact, and you guys want to cry about it and do away with it because one criminal didn't get to take office in 2017. smh

What are your thoughts on equal representation of counties at the state level? (When voting for a governor)

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[DC_Vol]

Democrats are awful losers. Russia, Comey, the Electoral College, on and on and on. What a bunch of nancies.

You squeal like stuck pigs and screech like jilted 13 year old school girls.

And almost to a number, none of you have had much of anything to say on the corruption inside your own party. You've chosen to look the other way and jump on board the corruption machine after your party and its leadership worked to put the fix in on your primary.

They sank Bernie. For all the euphoria around his candidacy, he never had a chance. Again, a bunch of nancies. Party syncophants.

Your moaning now is like fine music to my ears. Thanks for that.

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is all beside the point.

Republicans like the electoral college because they can finish second and still win. That's all that matters to them.

They've only gotten the most votes in one election since 1988.

That's an absurdity. Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean the rules are wrong; and according to the constitution, electoral college wins.

There was, and is, no "coming in second and winning". You sound more ignorant than Ricky-Bobby's drunk dad with that.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That is 100% true. I just get a kick of how they defend it like it's some beautifully genius concept but then can never defend why the concept doesn't translate to the state level. I think they also realize they would have absolutely no chance in future elections without the electoral college loophole.

Loophole... Do you realize how ridiculous that makes you sound?

 

[luthervol]

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Then why not all states? And then you can take it to the county level. Why should one big town in a county carry more weight than the most rural parts of the county? It obviously boils down to a rural vs. urban level. One man / one vote has been mandated in all areas other than the vote for president. One man's vote should not count more than another man's vote. The electoral college did not give us a system where no states are overlooked, it gave us a system where all state's are overlooked that are not classified as "battle ground" states. Why did Trump not campaign in California, the most powerful and populace state in the union? Do you think that was the intent of the founding fathers?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Then why not all states? And then you can take it to the county level. Why should one big town in a county carry more weight than the most rural parts of the county? It obviously boils down to a rural vs. urban level. One man / one vote has been mandated in all areas other than the vote for president. One man's vote should not count more than another man's vote. The electoral college did not give us a system where no states are overlooked, it gave us a system where all state's are overlooked that are not classified as "battle ground" states. Why did Trump not campaign in California, the most powerful and populace state in the union? Do you think that was the intent of the founding fathers?

I've answered that, and I won't make time to repeat myself into your self-willed ignorance.

You don't like the electoral college. I get it. Grow up and put your big boy pants on. Your criminal knew the election laws before she ran and was still arrogant enough to ignore what everyone knows you need to do to win an election.

Deal with it and stop your crying.

 

[hog88]

No they can't. They've tried and lost in the federal courts.

Please show your research.

 

[luthervol]

Please show your research.

google - georgia county unit system

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Step off your donkey

You and LG are the same

Your opinion. Glad to see you using simple thinking.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

This is all beside the point.

Republicans like the electoral college because they can finish second and still win. That's all that matters to them.

They've only gotten the most votes in one election since 1988.

Hmmmm, do you find it the least bit interesting that the places with the biggest populations, also being the places with the most illegals, vote Democrat?

So we should just use that system right? How comical. You and other libs seem to hold on to the popular vote like it is absolutely reflective of the actual voting base. Just like others you are wrong.

The electoral college was designed by people much smarter than anyone on this board and anyone residing in DC. Keep reaching.

 

[luthervol]

I've answered that, and I won't make time to repeat myself into your self-willed ignorance.

You don't like the electoral college. I get it. Grow up and put your big boy pants on. Your criminal knew the election laws before she ran and was still arrogant enough to ignore what everyone knows you need to do to win an election.

Deal with it and stop your crying.

Everyone knows the system.
Trump won according to the rules.
Trump lost the popular vote.
Republicans have won the popular vote in only one national election since 1988.
These are facts we all know.

The electoral college allows a person to win who is not the choice of the majority of the voters. It's happened twice now in the past 16 years.

I'm among those who think the need for an electoral college has past. Some disagree, most agree.

I use the fact that it's not allowed at the state level to bolster my point.

You disagree with me. So what. Get over it and stop the crying.

 

[hog88]

google - georgia county unit system

Nope, you made the statement prove your point.

 

[GAVol]

Why did Trump not campaign in California, the most powerful and populace state in the union? Do you think that was the intent of the founding fathers?

Yes... That was EXACTLY the intent. The Constitution was a document that had to be ratified by the states. The EC was part of the deal. Without it, the framers knew we'd get an endless parade of favorite sons from a few highly populated areas. For small states that were leery of authoritarian central government, that wouldn't fly then and wouldn't fly now.

 

[AirVol]

Everyone knows the system.
Trump won according to the rules.
Trump lost the popular vote.
Republicans have won the popular vote in only one national election since 1988.
These are facts we all know.

The electoral college allows a person to win who is not the choice of the majority of the voters. It's happened twice now in the past 16 years.

I'm among those who think the need for an electoral college has past. Some disagree, most agree.

I use the fact that it's not allowed at the state level to bolster my point.

You disagree with me. So what. Get over it and stop the crying.

Yet George Soros has been destroying the Democratic Party and people like you approve of him dismantling the US and turn into a socialist country.

 

[volinbham]

Why do you want some counties in a state to be even more significantly powerful than other counties?

My question was, "if it's good for the nation, then why not the states?.

Since you advocate for popular vote do you also advocate we be a democracy rather than democratic republic? If not, why not - I mean shouldn't one vote count as much as any other?

That whole 2 Senators from each state must burn your biscuits.