TrumPutinGate

[barrylee]

Infowars has a little bit of credibility

If you believe this there is really no use in attempting to have a conversation with you. You and others like you will not believe evidence when it does come forth.
I'll be back when it hits and don't kid yourself, it's coming!
Never thought I could have more in common with a Gator than most Vol fans but it has come to be..

 

[hog88]

If you believe this there is really no use in attempting to have a conversation with you. You and others like you will not believe evidence when it does come forth.
I'll be back when it hits and don't kid yourself, it's coming!
Never thought I could have more in common with a Gator than most Vol fans but it has come to be..

It's been coming for almost a year now, the supposed investigation started last July. Bring on some evidence and I'll believe it. Maybe.......

 

[Velo Vol]

The funny part about the Trumpsters' "unmasking and surveillance" distraction is that the only way we get into it is by further digging their graves with the Russian investigation.

These people aren't too bright.

 

[Sandman 423]

Now we have a grandpa who can't even be trusted with a text box and a 140 character limit.

This was the worst lose/lose situation since . . . ok, I can't think of one.

Grant vs. Greeley in 1872? Nah, doesn't come close. Grant liked to drink but could you blame him at that point?

McGovern/Nixon in 1972? Would take either of those over Trump or Hillary right now.

If the poop emoji ran as a turd party candidate it would have won imo.

 

[joevol33]

Lol

In the next episode of "everyone Trump knows is a Russian agent"

Haha. Wait, does me laughing make me a Russian agent?

 

[carlos86]

May 22nd Tweet From Russian Embassy In US


May 31st Trump orders Government to give Russia back their spy facilities.

 

[hog88]

May 22nd Tweet From Russian Embassy In US


May 31st Trump orders Government to give Russia back their spy facilities.

Isn't this about the same as returning Iran's money?

 

[lawgator1]

Isn't this about the same as returning Iran's money?

Not. Even. Remotely. Close.

 

[hog88]

Not. Even. Remotely. Close.

Why? Because you say so?

 

[joevol33]

Why? Because you say so?

Because it's not a democrat

 

[Grand Vol]

Not. Even. Remotely. Close.

You're right. The Russians didn't hold Americans hostage for over a year and continue their chants of "Death to America" afterwards.

 

[lawgator1]

Why? Because you say so?

Sigh. Its obvious.

Those facilities are on US soil. They enjoy them at our pleasure, as a privilege, not as of right. Their interests in them are regulated by us, encumbered, and subject to our allowing them to continue.

That makes them totally different than money and securities, literally belonging to someone else.

Truly, if you cannot see this obvious distinction, you are an imbecile.

 

[Grand Vol]

May 22nd Tweet From Russian Embassy In US


May 31st Trump orders Government to give Russia back their spy facilities.

Can you be any more lame and ignorant? This is what you get when you actually use Twitter as an information medium. You know that fake news thing? Congrats; they got you hook, line and sinker.

"Trump orders Government to give Russia back their spy facilities." As in Trump himself ordered it so? And the deal is complete?

Not so fast, Sparky. Here's the rest of the story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f64b4fe2dfc_story.html?utm_term=.4449503deb52

The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, that its officials were ejected from in late December as punishment for Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Early last month, the Trump administration told the Russians that it would consider turning the properties back over to them if Moscow would lift its freeze, imposed in 2014 in retaliation for U.S. sanctions related to Ukraine, on construction of a new U.S. consulate on a certain parcel of land in St. Petersburg.

Two days later, the U.S. position changed. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a meeting in Washington that the United States had dropped any linkage between the compounds and the consulate, according to several people with knowledge of the exchanges.

But wait! There's more!

Before making a final decision on allowing the Russians to reoccupy the compounds, the administration is examining possible restrictions on Russian activities there, including removing the diplomatic immunity the properties previously enjoyed. Without immunity, the facilities would be treated as any other buildings in the United States and would not be barred to entry by U.S. law enforcement, according to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters.

In case your ignorance doesn't understand, revoking diplomatic immunity on a property is a huge deal.

Stop being ignorant.

 

[hog88]

Sigh. Its obvious.

Those facilities are on US soil. They enjoy them at our pleasure, as a privilege, not as of right. Their interests in them are regulated by us, encumbered, and subject to our allowing them to continue.

That makes them totally different than money and securities, literally belonging to someone else.

Truly, if you cannot see this obvious distinction, you are an imbecile.

Did they not purchase the property? I feel pretty certain we didn't give them the property. If they had deed and title to those properties shouldn't they enjoy the same legal protections anyone else would before the government could seize them?

Iran's money was on US soil and we had no obligation to give it back, we didn't have to negotiate it's return and Iran had no legal recourse to get it back.

 

[lawgator1]

Did they not purchase the property? I feel pretty certain we didn't give them the property. If they had deed and title to those properties shouldn't they enjoy the same legal protections anyone else would before the government could seize them?

Iran's money was on US soil and we had no obligation to give it back, we didn't have to negotiate it's return and Iran had no legal recourse to get it back.

Stop. You just don't understand what you are talking about. You are maikng it worse, not better.

 

[hog88]

Stop. You just don't understand what you are talking about. You are maikng it worse, not better.

Explain then.

 

[Grand Vol]

Stop. You just don't understand what you are talking about. You are maikng it worse, not better.

I happen to know what I'm talking about. Wanna give me a try?

 

[hog88]

Stop. You just don't understand what you are talking about. You are maikng it worse, not better.

Explain then.

Taking them awhile to email you the right talking points?

 

[AirVol]

Sigh. Its obvious.

Those facilities are on US soil. They enjoy them at our pleasure, as a privilege, not as of right. Their interests in them are regulated by us, encumbered, and subject to our allowing them to continue.

That makes them totally different than money and securities, literally belonging to someone else.

Truly, if you cannot see this obvious distinction, you are an imbecile.

What would be your excuse if this was already in the works during Obama's tenure?

 

[Grand Vol]

Taking them awhile to email you the right talking points?

He scurred of taking me on.

He knows I'll beat his ass like a bad redheaded stepchild.

 

[VOLatile]

Isn't this about the same as returning Iran's money?

Iran fulfilled their end of the promise.

 

[AirVol]

Iran fulfilled their end of the promise.

What about the $400 mil for ransom?

 

[Velo Vol]

Did they not purchase the property? I feel pretty certain we didn't give them the property. If they had deed and title to those properties shouldn't they enjoy the same legal protections anyone else would before the government could seize them?

Sure, if a foreign government owns American property, it should be free to do whatever it wants on it. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[VOLatile]

What about the $400 mil for ransom?

What ransom, exactly?

http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/

"This was not a quid pro quo for hostages," says Barbara Slavin, acting director of the Future of Iran Initiative at the Atlantic Council. "It was an opportunity for countries with no diplomatic relations to clear away a number of diplomatic disputes. For the U.S, it was important to get back the detained Americans, and the Iranians wanted their seven citizens out of jail."

...

According to Sick: "It was all taken care of at the same time, through separate channels. It was a good deal for U.S. taxpayers, the U.S. obeyed the law, and the payment was always going to happen anyway."

...

The Iranian press and military enthusiastically spun the payment as ransom, and more proof of how Tehran had rolled the U.S. in the nuclear talks.

Iran says it was ransom. So you hate Obama so much that you believe Iran over your own (former) President.

 

[VOLatile]

Sure, if a foreign government owns American property, it should be free to do whatever it wants on it. What could possibly go wrong?

You could play hide and seek on the property or beat the crap out of some peaceful American citizen protesters a la Erdogan's entourage... oh, wait, that wasn't on Turkish Embassy soil yet they're going to get off free thanks to p*ss-in-chief.