TrumPutinGate

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"this is the kind of stuff over which lawyers get disbarred"

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Can you obstruct a fraud? | NR

By the former director’s own account, the words Trump used left the decision about pursuing Flynn to Comey’s discretion — notwithstanding that, as chief executive, Trump had the legitimate authority to order Comey to close the case. Moreover, at the time these events actually happened, Comey took no action consistent with someone who understood himself to be under a directive by the president of the United States. He and the FBI continued the investigation.

Trump not only did not stop them from doing that. He never asked about the matter again. After the immediacy of the president’s anguish over having to fire his friend, Flynn seems to have faded from memory. Trump could have pardoned Flynn, he could have stepped in and ordered an end to the investigation at any time. He’s never done either.

Comey, meanwhile, also took no action consistent with someone who believed he had witnessed a crime. He now says he can’t say for sure whether it was or it wasn’t obstruction. But he is a highly experienced former prosecutor and investigator who has handled obstruction cases. He is an expert in this area of the law. At the time it happened, he did not report to his superiors at the Justice Department that the president had committed obstruction — although he would have been required to do that if he believed it had happened.

What about Congress? Did he report it to Congress, in whistleblower fashion?

Actually, he did the opposite.

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Patently, Comey and the FBI did not believe Trump had obstructed an investigation by lobbying on Flynn’s behalf. And just as patently, that’s because Trump did not do so: You cannot act corruptly – as the obstruction statute requires the government to prove beyond a reasonable doubt – if you do not believe what you are doing is against the law. Since Trump had as much authority as any prosecutor or FBI agent to weigh the merits of prosecuting Flynn, he cannot have acted corruptly in doing so.

So, given that no one who was aware of the facts believed that Trump had committed obstruction at the time the conduct occurred, why is Trump now reportedly under investigation for obstruction?

Trump did not do anything to interfere with the investigation of Russia’s interference in the election. According to Comey’s testimony, the president even said it would be good to find out if any of Trump’s “satellites” — his associates — had done anything wrong.

What the president appears to have objected to, and to have sought help refuting, was what he saw as the fraudulent claim — subtly advanced by Comey and perhaps others in the intelligence community — that he personally had colluded with Russia in connection with the election, and that he was a criminal suspect.

That is not obstruction of an investigation. It is objection to a narrative — a narrative that the intelligence agencies knew was false yet refused to correct, no matter how much it was, and is, damaging Trump’s capacity to govern.
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Witch hunt
 
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n_huffhines said:
What exactly does he benefit by tweeting this out? Not sure where the smart PR is. Golf already believed it was a witch hunt and Mt. Leconte is not persuaded by the statement.
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He's building an "I'm being persecuted" narrative. As the veracity of the various allegations and "leaked" information bite the dust one by one his credibility rises.
 
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hog88 said:
That is not an official announcement. That is pretty smart PR.
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How is this smart? For one thing, it's not even accurate. Trump is being investigated by Mueller; not Rosenstein who is the one that appointed Mueller.

...and fwiw, Sean Spicer has said that Trump's tweets should be considered official statements. Much was made of that by the 9th Circuit Court in their rejection of the travel ban.
 
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He's tweeting about something he's being investigated for.

Brilliant. If only more criminal defense lawyers could convince their clients to do this.
 
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hog88 said:
He's building an "I'm being persecuted" narrative. As the veracity of the various allegations and "leaked" information bite the dust one by one his credibility rises.
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Trump has no self control. And his tweets will be used against him just like they have already by the Federal Courts.

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Velo Vol said:
He's tweeting about something he's being investigated for.

Brilliant. If only more criminal defense lawyers could convince their clients to do this.
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They call him Tater Salad. He has the right to remain silent but he don't have the ability.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How is this smart? For one thing, it's not even accurate. Trump is being investigated by Mueller; not Rosenstein who is the one that appointed Mueller.

...and fwiw, Sean Spicer has said that Trump's tweets should be considered official statements. Much was made of that by the 9th Circuit Court in their rejection of the travel ban.
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Rosenstein was the one that opened the investigation about 4 days after Trump fired Comey. Rosenstein then passed the investigation on to the Special Counsels office.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How is this smart? For one thing, it's not even accurate. Trump is being investigated by Mueller; not Rosenstein who is the one that appointed Mueller.

...and fwiw, Sean Spicer has said that Trump's tweets should be considered official statements. Much was made of that by the 9th Circuit Court in their rejection of the travel ban.
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Muller works at the pleasure of Rosentein. Rosenstein can end any investigative avenue Muller decides to take.
 
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