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Mick said:
We claimed cold-war victory over Russia with the fall of the Berlin Wall. As we have learned in the past year that we are still in the cold-war and loosing. Russia has successfully use psychological warfare against our democracy and a cyber army hacking everything they can. Putin and his supporters are winning and Trump and his supporters are not. All of America is loosing and these idiot supporters cannot even see what a POS he is because that would make the "libtards" right. Clinging to the only hope they have of not looking like the said idiots that they are.
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Wtf is loosing? Is it the opposite of weening?
 
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armchair said:
with these guys. They're in their own alternate universe and almost never respond intelligently to anything--because they can't. They're still trying to pretend that Clinton was evil.

We have a president who's been briefed repeatedly by our intelligence services on this issue, told by the CIA and NSA that Russia hacked DNC and other services, planted fake stories on social-media websites, etc.--and Trump is still PUBLICLY defending a Russian dictator who is f--king with our country. And the country folk here don't seem to think there is a problem. Trump goes to Europe and LIES about the possibility of other countries being involved--again, trying to wave off an attack on our own sovereignty. Former intelligence chief Clapper said yesterday that NO OTHER COUNTRIES were involved. This is treasonous behavior by our own president! He goes around trying to blame the victims--tries to blame Obama and the Democrats. The man is a /true/ Manchurian candidate--yea, go look it up.

Why? Clearly Trump has private financial ties to Russia that he wants to protect and hide --ties that he has yet to reveal and that he's lied about. But we know Russians have invested heavily in some if not many of his properties. It's almost certain that a lot of the money was dirty and laundered via investments in Trump properties.

No concrete evidence? There is plenty of evidence--much of it circumstantial--but it continues to accumulate. Flynn took $65K from a Russian company and failed to report it. That's concrete. This meeting during the campaign with a Kremlin-linked lawyer.....concrete. Manafort's ties to Russia--concrete. We also know that the Trumpsters were telling Russia that the Ukraine-related sanctions would be lifted--Flynn told the Russian ambassador immediately after the election, and my bet is we'll find out that was communicated to Russian during the campaign, too. You realize, too, that when Trump met Putin, they broke with protocol and allowed no note-taking during their meeting--there were only four (maybe six) people total in the room. It is customary for notes to be taken when two foreign leaders have a sit-down. No note-taking. And let's not forget the crystal clear obstruction of justice that Trump has engaged in by firing the FBI chief and then admitting it was because of the Russia investigation, among other attempts to end the investigation. That is impeachable--but not by GOP pansies.

We don't know if there was direct quid-pro-quo between the Trump campaign and the Russians, but there was some $hit going down, it's STILL going down, and it is not in America's best interest. More is bound to come out. Trump is dirty, shady--he's always been that way--but his defenders want to believe he's some innocent being unfairly hounded by CNN. Oh, my. Trump supporters are EXACTLY like Putin's Russian supporters--they've lost their ethical compass.
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While I'm pretending that Clinton isn't/wasn't evil I'll try and pretend you're not mentally ill..... hmmm.... yeah....... it's not really working for me. You're certifiably crazy as hell
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Correct. Liberals are psychotic and very detached from reality.
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In reality Russia does not have America in their best interest and neither does Trump. Our stature on the world stage has significantly diminished under Trump and if you think that is good for us then the delusions of reality rest with the people that are blaming liberals and not even talking about Russia's desire to undermine western democracies. You are fighting the wrong enemy.
 
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Mick said:
In reality Russia does not have America in their best interest and neither does Trump. Our stature on the world stage has significantly diminished under Trump and if you think that is good for us then the delusions of reality rest with the people that are blaming liberals and not even talking about Russia's desire to undermine western democracies. You are fighting the wrong enemy.
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It is not possible for our world stature to have gone any lower than Obama had it. I could care less that Europe is pissy that our new president does not scrape and bow to the omnipotence of the UN or EU.
 
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Mick said:
In reality Russia does not have America in their best interest and neither does Trump. Our stature on the world stage has significantly diminished under Trump and if you think that is good for us then the delusions of reality rest with the people that are blaming liberals and not even talking about Russia's desire to undermine western democracies. You are fighting the wrong enemy.
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You're doing it wrong Mick..... US stature hasn't significantly diminished under Trump..... you're about six and a half years behind reality my friend. You're just now realizing what Obama's BS has done.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
It is not possible for our world stature to have gone any lower than Obama had it. I could care less that Europe is pissy that our new president does not scrape and bow to the omnipotence of the UN or EU.
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It's now about Trump, not Obama. So no points for deflection. "Scraping and bowing"? That's funny. Working with Western Democracies is in our interests. Trump thinks it makes him look like a big man when he thumbs his nose at our allies. It's his inferior personality complexes at work I'm afraid.
 
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MT LeConte said:
It's now about Trump, not Obama. So no points for deflection. "Scraping and bowing"? That's funny. Working with Western Democracies is in our interests. Trump thinks it makes him look like a big man when he thumbs his nose at our allies. It's his inferior personality complexes at work I'm afraid.
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Let me know when one of the Western European countries breaks away from NATO.
 
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MT LeConte said:
It's now about Trump, not Obama. So no points for deflection. "Scraping and bowing"? That's funny. Working with Western Democracies is in our interests. Trump thinks it makes him look like a big man when he thumbs his nose at our allies. It's his inferior personality complexes at work I'm afraid.
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It's about time someone called them out
 

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FLVOL69 said:
It's about time someone called them out
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Can someone give the PF a flow chart on when it's OK to cite CNN as a reliable source? Will this work?

Code: 
Is it pro trump?  ---> Yes ----> Legit, unbiased news
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                        No ----> Fake News, liberal rag
 
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GAVol said:
Blah, buzzword, talking point, blah...

That's the way it was sold. Unfortunately, a ton of community banks and financial institutions that did nothing wrong got killed by the overregulation and excessive compliance.
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Wrong! The community banks simply didn't have as much $$$ to loan as the larger banks. It's either a monopoly or free market competition. The consumer choose the lower rates and looser loan requirements of the big banks. That ain't no talking' point dude. :ermm:
 
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Septic said:
Can someone give the PF a flow chart on when it's OK to cite CNN as a reliable source? Will this work?

Code: 
Is it pro trump?  ---> Yes ----> Legit, unbiased news
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                        No ----> Fake News, liberal rag
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Reporting every lie tRump tells isn't fake news, the russian investigation isn't fake news. Time Magazine has documented 140 lies he's told since taking office. NO link do your own research. Info Wars and Breitbart News are bigger propagandists than Pravda. Faux News is the equivalent of RT. Ridiculous!
 
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