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LouderVol said:
Care to offer an explanation why Obama didn't jump all over this? talk about shooting it dead from the start. in your world I can't think of any president short of lincoln who had a more critical matter on his plate.
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Because your boy had already been crying about the election being fixed! If he had publicly announced Russian involvement in the election process, can only imagine the outcry from yourself and other Trump supporters!
 
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Poor Trump---still trying to blame his corruption and incompetence on the media and our previous president. But when you and the GOP have been playing red staters for dupes for years, why stop now?
 
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carlos86 said:
U.S. intelligence starting in the spring of 2015 detected conversations in which Russian government officials discussed meetings with Trump associates

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia...ssociates-before-campaign-began-1499890354The
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Russian government officials were heard discussing Donald Trump associates months before he ran for president, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday. According to current and former U.S. officials who spoke to the newspaper, U.S. intelligence overheard the conversations as early as spring 2015, and “In some cases, the Russians in the overheard conversations talked about meetings held outside the U.S. involving Russian government officials and Trump business associates or advisers, these people said.” It is unclear which Trump associates the Kremlin discussed or whether they were tied to the Trump’s eventual presidential campaign. The officials reportedly didn’t think much of the vague conversations when they first heard them, but now, in light of Donald Trump Jr. having met with a Kremlin-linked lawyer on campaign matters, investigators are revisiting the intercepted chats.
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The Beast summary.

https://www.wsj.com/article_email/r...n-began-1499890354-lMyQjAxMTI3MjE5MjExMzI0Wj/

"WASHINGTON—U.S. intelligence agencies starting in the spring of 2015 detected conversations in which Russian government officials discussed associates of Donald Trump, several months before he declared his candidacy for president, according to current and former U.S. officials.

In some cases, the Russians in the overheard conversations talked about meetings held outside the U.S. involving Russian government officials and Trump business associates or advisers, these people said.

It isn’t clear which Trump associates or advisers the Russians were referring to, or whether they had any connection to his presidential aspirations.

The reports were gathered by intelligence agencies that routinely monitor Russian espionage against the U.S. Such efforts can include monitoring phone calls and emails as well as information from informants. The efforts weren’t aimed at Mr. Trump or his associates, these people said.
A Year of Trump's Comments on Russia
Emails released by President Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. offer evidence that senior campaign officials entertained accepting Russia’s help in the 2016 election. Trump has made a series of comments about Russia on the campaign trail and as president. Photo: Getty

The U.S. intelligence agencies weren’t sure what to make of the vague and inconclusive information, given that Mr. Trump had done business in Russia and was a global celebrity well-known to prominent people there. The names of Americans do sometimes show up in conversations involving Russian officials that are overheard by U.S. intelligence.

Now, in light of the release of emails Tuesday by Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, investigators are going back to those early reports to see if they can understand them better.

The emails provide details about a meeting Donald Jr. arranged in June 2016—as his father was on the verge of clinching the Republican nomination—with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to discuss allegedly incriminating information about Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton obtained by the Russian government.

Donald Jr. and the Russian lawyer said no information on Mrs. Clinton was disclosed in the meeting. But the emails offer the first clear public evidence that senior officials in Mr. Trump’s camp were open to offers of assistance from Russia in his quest for the White House.

A lawyer for Mr. Trump didn’t return a call seeking comment on the overheard 2015 conversations.

As with other new revelations in the probes of Russian interference in the election, the Trump Jr. emails enable investigators to look at earlier reports with fresh eyes, and to ask new questions, the current and former officials said.

The reports on the 2015 conversations weren’t particularly illuminating, the people familiar with them said. Mr. Trump had business connections in Russia—he produced the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow—and had sold properties to Russians.

In that respect, the reports in and of themselves weren’t alarming. But they did have officials asking each other, “What’s going on?” one former official said.

Then, in the spring of 2016, U.S. intelligence officials’ suspicions about Russian meddling in the election grew after their counterparts in Europe warned that Russian money might be flowing into the presidential election, according to officials with knowledge of the warning. It remains unknown if or whether those funds were funneled to a particular campaign or to others to spend it on behalf of candidates.

In June 2016, officials at the Democratic National Committee revealed that their computer networks had been penetrated by hackers, whom the FBI and intelligence agencies later determined worked for the Russian intelligence services. Emails taken in those incursions subsequently were published by WikiLeaks, and in October, the site released emails that had been stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

At that point, intelligence officials had little doubt that the Russian government was attempting to interfere in the presidential elections. By the end of 2016, they concluded publicly that the Russian hacking campaign was meant to undermine Mrs. Clinton and help Mr. Trump.

Now, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and several congressional committees are probing Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia over the years, as is special counsel Robert Mueller. "
 
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^^ You mean Russian government officials were overheard talking about a US businessman who has done business in the country?

You got him now!
 
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barrylee said:
Because your boy had already been crying about the election being fixed! If he had publicly announced Russian involvement in the election process, can only imagine the outcry from yourself and other Trump supporters!
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lol, should I quote you my VN quotes or my FB quotes, or my texts to friends when I said that Trump will be the worst president we have ever had?

I don't vote as long as there is a two party system, imo its not voting as the founding fathers saw it.

i guess the outcry would have been the same as the dems with the FBI investigation into Hilary's emails.

your side cheated and lost and now you need excuses. I honestly hope their is proof that will stand up in court because I prefer Pence to Trump*. but if none can be proved, guess what? el presidente es Donald Trump.

*not that pence would have been my choice either.
 
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hog88 said:
^^ You mean Russian government officials were overheard talking about a US businessman who has done business in the country?

You got him now!
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Or Manafort - a Ukrainian lobbyist...

Article is just clickbait. Bigger story is leakers
 
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golfballs said:
Or Manafort - a Ukrainian lobbyist...

Article is just clickbait. Bigger story is leakers
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Yep, sounds like either our IC can't keep their mouths shut or (most likely) members of the various congressional committees are doing the leaking.
 
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Mick said:
The Beast summary.

It isn’t clear which Trump associates or advisers the Russians were referring to, or whether they had any connection to his presidential aspirations.



The U.S. intelligence agencies weren’t sure what to make of the vague and inconclusive information, given that Mr. Trump had done business in Russia and was a global celebrity well-known to prominent people there. The names of Americans do sometimes show up in conversations involving Russian officials that are overheard by U.S. intelligence.
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1. holy wall of text batman
2. so they have no clue with who the Russians were actually talking too
3. they are linking a conversation had a year apart with two completely different individuals as a possible link. wow you guys are digging deep hoping something sticks.
4. i like how it offers a completely legitimate reason for the comments. he had done business with Russia before as a private citizen. I guess he should have been a US employee first then it would have been ok, right? and that monitored russian comments came before he announced his run.
 
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alright, alright alright. I am drunk enough for this Russian conspiracy stuff to start making sense.

get this.

The Russians actually want Pence to be president.

1. dudes apparently a racist or some nonsense. russians don't like americans this fits.
2. trump is too stupid to deal with.
3. trump sells easier than pence so they push Trump as president. dude is egotistical enough to be easily sold after 1 conversation, but no collusion.
4. russia is smart enough, and Pence is too. to keep their mouths shut about the truth long enough for trump to bury himself.
5. they know the US IC is good enough to dig up some of it, so the russians lure some of the idiot trump children along, basically all but Ivanka but i am getting to her giggity, so that they get caught
6. knowing the constitution better than the average citizen they know Pence is next in line so they just have to wait for trump to take the fall for them without him knowing, hes stupid remember.
7. trump is also brash enough to not listen to russia, he has an ego the size of russia and then you make him president? ****!
8. pence however has that down home feel Putin relates too but America does not.
9. the dems are giving putin exactly what he wants. he gets his guy, pence, the americans think they have it figured out when they dont. and putin disrupts american elections for a while with the call of "russian interference" being heard from every loser.
10. trump impeached, maybe imprissoned but thats a long shot. washington doesn't want to set a precedence of politicians in jail. all connected parties end up banished from all things america while pence and the russians take over. and ivanka is so destitute she ends up with me. either as punishment or just how the dice fall I don't care.
 
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LouderVol said:
1. holy wall of text batman
2. so they have no clue with who the Russians were actually talking too
3. they are linking a conversation had a year apart with two completely different individuals as a possible link. wow you guys are digging deep hoping something sticks.
4. i like how it offers a completely legitimate reason for the comments. he had done business with Russia before as a private citizen. I guess he should have been a US employee first then it would have been ok, right? and that monitored russian comments came before he announced his run.
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Maybe those names have not been unmasked?
 
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