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I agree. Intent matters. Does not change the fact that it isn't a crime (at least not based on what we know) and isn't treason. Shady as hell? Yes. Stupid as hell? Yes. Crime? No. Treason? No. The fact that just about every other sleazy politician would have fallen into this honeypot is not a relevant defense for Trump. He ran on the basis of not being your typical sleazy politician, so this is definitely a strike against him in that regard.
I have a lawyer question for LG and CWV...
Is it illegal for me to curse at and threaten the life of that chick with the high pitched voice that records all the robo-calls? Even though she isn't really there?
I'm pretty sure I called her all sorts of names and threatened to burn her house down with her in it since this is the third call I've gotten today from different numbers.
That actually very debatable. Federal law pretty clearly states that "seeking something of value" from a "foreign national" for use in a "federal or state election" is illegal.
You can not want to believe it applies, but it could absolutely be viewed as a crime.
The lawyers aren't really making good points.
No, they are. Many here simply disagree with their politics and therefore don't want to accept or concede they are far more competent to digest the legal nuances of whats occured.
Having a political opinion and access to google doesn't isn't a equal to earning a JD and passing the BAR.
No, they are. Many here simply disagree with their politics and therefore don't want to accept or concede they are far more competent to digest the legal nuances of whats occured.
Having a political opinion and access to google doesn't equate to earning a JD and passing the Bar.
You believe they are because you are using the same thing you accuse others of. They believe what you believe, hence they are right in your eyes.
As stated, the meeting certainly raises eyebrows especially in light of what information the emails contained. Now, as to whether that's illegal, collusion or otherwise, is going to be up to the Special Prosecutor to decide. At a minimum, it's a big black eye for Trump and company. Maximum? Don't think it'll reach impeachment levels (except that dingbat that already filed them yesterday).
My issue is that LG is trying to convince us other POTUS candidates wouldn't have done the same thing "because they said they wouldn't." Give me a break. Hillary would have (might have for all we know). The difference is the Trump campaign just got caught doing it.