TrumPutinGate

[ClearwaterVol]

They lied and she's not a Russian government lawyer.

Does whether or not other people would take the meeting change whether it is an ethically sound decision?

 

[volfanjustin]

I don't know. Not been in that position. My point is, when Trump says anyone would have taken that meeting, that is apparently not true.

And if Trump Jr. wasn't worried he had done the wrong thing, why has he lied about it so many times?

First she wasn't part of the Russian government and second every single person would have took the meeting. Was the meeting the right thing to do, probably not. Was it illegal, impeachment worthy? Not even close

 

[golfballs]

Would most people have taken the meeting, as Trump claims?

From what I heard yesterday, both Republican and Democrat say they would not meet with a Russian government lawyer to get dirt on an opponent.

:whatever:

 

[hog88]

It just seems to me that world opinion tends to be proven accurate. I was just wondering it the same was true for you.

There are several people you could say are revered around the world that i find between revolting and undeserved. So I disagree with your hypothesis.

 

[Grand Vol]

I don't know. Not been in that position. My point is, when Trump says anyone would have taken that meeting, that is apparently not true.

And if Trump Jr. wasn't worried he had done the wrong thing, why has he lied about it so many times?

I know where you work, or more specifically, the agency which you work for.

Head on over and talk to the narcotics guys or burglary or any of the major crimes units and ask them if a CI had information pertaining to a potential ongoing case whether they would ignore a meeting. They aren't going to say "no, our hands are too Lilly white to meet with a known criminal even though it could lead to something."

Don't be naive in thinking neither the GOP or DNC wouldn't jump on a meeting like that in a heartbeat. Sure, they probably wouldn't use such a public figure like DT Jr or Manafort, but make no mistake, someone's going to that meeting to find out what's up.

 

[hog88]

Trump Jr. thought she was, didn't he?

And, he thought she was there on behalf of the Russian government to help his father win, correct?

Whether those things were true is irrelevant. He believed them to be true.

Neither you nor I know what he was thinking. Plus what he was thinking is irrelevant.

 

[hog88]

Does whether or not other people would take the meeting change whether it is an ethically sound decision?

No but I also don't see this meeting as unethical.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Neither you nor I know what he was thinking. Plus what he was thinking is irrelevant.

It is absolutely relevant. If he believed that he was meeting with a Russian operative, it changes things. Intent matters.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

No but I also don't see this meeting as unethical.

I am not sure if it crosses the line, but it is too close for comfort.

 

[AirVol]

So Don Jr meets a Russian. Does that mean you've got Don Sr. now?

 

[hog88]

It is absolutely relevant. If he believed that he was meeting with a Russian operative, it changes things. Intent matters.

Good luck proving what he was thinking.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

So Don Jr meets a Russian. Does that mean you've got Don Sr. now?

No, but he was in the Trump inner circle. It is not a real stretch to think Daddy knew.

 

[lawgator1]

Neither you nor I know what he was thinking. Plus what he was thinking is irrelevant.

It IS the relevant thing. He thought he was meeting with a woman representing the Russian government for THE PURPOSE of the Russian government helping his father win.

Don't deny it, it's proven by the emails.

 

[hog88]

I am not sure if it crosses the line, but it is too close for comfort.

We all have different comfort levels.

 

[volfanjustin]

Good luck proving what he was thinking.

They dont care about or need proof, all these need are baseless accusations

 

[Grand Vol]

Don't be naive in thinking neither the GOP or DNC wouldn't jump on a meeting like that in a heartbeat. Sure, they probably wouldn't use such a public figure like DT Jr or Manafort, but make no mistake, someone's going to that meeting to find out what's up.

Bump for CWV and LG.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Good luck proving what he was thinking.

His emails do nothing to dispel the notion and make him look guilty.

BTW, intent is a part of many many cases and is proven on a daily basis in every courthouse in America.

 

[hog88]

It IS the relevant thing. He thought he was meeting with a woman representing the Russian government for THE PURPOSE of the Russian government helping his father win.

Don't deny it, it's proven by the emails.

Would you take that string of emojis to court as your only evidence to prove what he was thinking? Read the emails closely.

 

[lawgator1]

No, but he was in the Trump inner circle. It is not a real stretch to think Daddy knew.

Especially given the fact that Daddy then started boasting about coming information.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Bump for CWV and LG.

I agree that many people would take the meeting and I believe that it could be done while being in more ethically sound territory. Meet them. Document the meet with emails etc. Get the info or don't and disclose the meeting to the proper authorities. To lie about it for a year puts you in the position of appearing guilty.

 

[volfanjustin]

It IS the relevant thing. He thought he was meeting with a woman representing the Russian government for THE PURPOSE of the Russian government helping his father win.

Don't deny it, it's proven by the emails.

You are right, feel free to impeachment Don Jr.

 

[lawgator1]

Would you take that string of emojis to court as your only evidence to prove what he was thinking? Read the emails closely.

Any other reading of them is ridiculous.

 

[hog88]

His emails do nothing to dispel the notion and make him look guilty.

BTW, intent is a part of many many cases and is proven on a daily basis in every courthouse in America.

Sure it is but you will need a **** ton more evidence to take this to court.

 

[Grand Vol]

I agree that many people would take the meeting and I believe that it could be done while being in more ethically sound territory. Meet them. Document the meet with emails etc. Get the info or don't and disclose the meeting to the proper authorities. To lie about it for a year puts you in the position of appearing guilty.

Many? Try all of them.

At least you replied. Poor LG is still trying to find the talking points.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

They dont care about or need proof, all these need are baseless accusations

Baseless? No where near baseless. I haven't yet seen the smoking gun that proves criminality, but what I have seen warrants further investigation. To say it is a baseless witch hunt is to remain ignorant.