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True.

I'm just worried, though, that it is complacency. In which case, the Republic and the Constitution are as good as gone.

Mcdad might not like this but maybe the Constitution should be updated. Think of the Constitution as a rough draft. Update it to take the "interpretation" out of it.
 
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Perhaps neither will occur, and we will be a happy nation to have avoided a civil war.

But letting Donny skate on this will be a grave, grave mistake.

It will embolden, and there will be more Donnys to come - 25, 50, 100 years down the road.

He must be punished to the fullest extent of the law and made an example

AFTER things are proven, of course.
 
Mcdad might not like this but maybe the Constitution should be updated. Think of the Constitution as a rough draft. Update it to take the "interpretation" out of it.

The "living document" mentality.

As Hog stated, that's a seriously dangerous path to take. We already have mechanisms in place to change or "update" the Constitution as it is, why mess with a good thing?
 
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Mcdad might not like this but maybe the Constitution should be updated. Think of the Constitution as a rough draft. Update it to take the "interpretation" out of it.

I like it. Framers put amendment process in there for just such a thing.

I got about 4 amendments I would support.
 
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I wonder if Putin is pushing Trump to be nicer to Iran?

That is always the possibility with an agent of a foreign government.

But I tend to take the simplest explanation: Donny's still potentially pushing the Baku money pipeline into Iran. You know, the one that will send Ivanka to prison? Yeah, that one.
 
Holy f'n ****. What interpretations do you want out of it?

Of course we need to be highly cautious with amending the Constitution, but anyone who thinks men of the 1780s/90s speaks for Americans for all time is a dolt.

The Founding Fathers would agree with that statement as well, although in likely harsher terms.
 
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Happy to. VP, Is this the thread for it or should i not derail?

Be my guess.

Actually, when you said that yesterday, I was referring to my "pleasantries," the fact that I hadn't called anyone a name yet.

Didn't really feel like clarifying at the time though.
 
Happy to. VP, Is this the thread for it or should i not derail?

I'll derail. These are just generalities.

1. Eliminate lifetime federal judicial appointments.
2. Term limits for congress AND (outside of national emergency) a maximum number of days they can be in session per year.
3. Election Day moved to the first Tuesday after April 15th.
 
I'll derail. These are just generalities.

1. Eliminate lifetime federal judicial appointments.
2. Term limits for congress AND (outside of national emergency) a maximum number of days they can be in session per year.
3. Election Day moved to the first Tuesday after April 15th.

Yes
Yes
Why?
 
Perhaps neither will occur, and we will be a happy nation to have avoided a civil war.

But letting Donny skate on this will be a grave, grave mistake.

It will embolden, and there will be more Donnys to come - 25, 50, 100 years down the road.

He must be punished to the fullest extent of the law and made an example

Again, what's "donny" done to be punished so harshly? Being elected fair & square as POTUS is all he's done that I see.
 
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