TrumPutinGate

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lawgator1 said:
You guys will just keep moving the goal posts. We get it.

If they found evidence that Trump signed a contract with Putin promising to work to undo sanctions in exchange for help on facebook and free hookers to pee on him, you'd still find a way to say that's not really collusion.

You say I'm "dreaming." I say you are just in denial about the facts so far, and what is yet to come out.
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there are no facts right now.

if they come out and say we have found nothing criminal with Trump you guys will keep going on and on about collusion and the next crack pot theory. because that is exactly what is going on. How many times have there been breaking stories "where you got him now", or something was about to come out that directly tied Trump and Putin together and it turned into 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon with loose ties to one or the other but not both? you guys have been crying wolf for almost a year now, still with nothing to show.
 
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Sounds like the real collusion is Mueller with the Obama regime. LOL the fact that he is investigating Russian collusion is a joke
 
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lawgator1 said:
You guys will just keep moving the goal posts. We get it.

If they found evidence that Trump signed a contract with Putin promising to work to undo sanctions in exchange for help on facebook and free hookers to pee on him, you'd still find a way to say that's not really collusion.

You say I'm "dreaming." I say you are just in denial about the facts so far, and what is yet to come out.
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If clear cut, irrefutable evidence surfaces that Trump indeed colluded with Russia to influence the election, then he shoukd be punished to the full extent of the law.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Define "collude," precisely.
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I would say all they need to do is get a search warrant and look right under that flap of hair on his head. He probably has a Russian spy device that transmits directly to the Kremlin - I'm convinced he hiding a bunch of stuff underneath that thing. There you have it - proof of collusion, now where is my check?

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lawgator1 said:
You guys will just keep moving the goal posts. We get it.

If they found evidence that Trump signed a contract with Putin promising to work to undo sanctions in exchange for help on facebook and free hookers to pee on him, you'd still find a way to say that's not really collusion.

You say I'm "dreaming." I say you are just in denial about the facts so far, and what is yet to come out.
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You're a gump.

Soon...
 
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Grand Vol said:
Your definition?

If he listened to the 1812 Overture (composed by a Russian) it means he was colluding.
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To me it means coordination. Did members of the Trump campaign or Russian operatives or agents in any way work alongside or assist one another in a common goal to get Trump elected (or HRC unelected, if you view it that way).

Examples:

Was there a discussion between the two of coordinating messages or advertising?

Did either share data with the other about voting trends or opinions that helped either or both focus on a receptive audience, either geographically or demographically?

Did the Russians fund pronTrump or anti-Clinton ads or campaigns, including on social media, with knowledge of the Trump campaign?

Those would be clear examples to me of collusion. Coordination to work to a common goal.
 
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lawgator1 said:
To me it means coordination. Did members of the Trump campaign or Russian operatives or agents in any way work alongside or assist one another in a common goal to get Trump elected (or HRC unelected, if you view it that way).

Examples:

Was there a discussion between the two of coordinating messages or advertising?

Did either share data with the other about voting trends or opinions that helped either or both focus on a receptive audience, either geographically or demographically?

Did the Russians fund pronTrump or anti-Clinton ads or campaigns, including on social media, with knowledge of the Trump campaign?

Those would be clear examples to me of collusion. Coordination to work to a common goal.
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only if Trump was part of it. I don't think any campaign would survive if they were responsible for their peons. Heck Hillary cheated and hired the lady who helped her.
 
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An American businessman who went undercover for the FBI was blocked during the Obama administration from telling Congress what he knew about Russia’s efforts to influence the Clintons’ and Obama administration decisions, according to a report.

Attorney Victoria Toensing, a former Reagan Justice Department official and former chief counsel of the Senate intelligence committee, told The Hill that she is trying to get the Trump administration or the FBI to free her client to talk.

“All of the information about this corruption has not come out,” Toensing said.

She said her client possesses “specific allegations that Russian executives made to him about how they facilitated the Obama administration’s 2010 approval of the Uranium One deal and sent millions of dollars in Russian nuclear funds to the U.S. to an entity assisting Bill Clinton’s foundation.”

At the time, Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and serving on the government panel that approved the deal, the lawyer said. Bill Clinton accepted $500,000 Russian speaking fees in 2010 and collected millions more in donations from parties with a stake in the Uranium One deal. The Clintons and the Obama administration have denied that had any influence on the deal.


But Toensing said her client can also testify that FBI agents made comments to him suggesting political pressure was exerted, and that there was specific evidence that could have scuttled approval of the Uranium One deal if it became public.


“There was corruption going on and it was never brought forward. And in fact, the sale of the uranium went on despite the government knowing about all of this corruption. So, he’s coming forward. He wants the right thing to be done, but he cannot do it unless he is released from the NDA,” she told the outlet.

Toensing said her client was asked by the FBI to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) to prevent him from talking to Congress, and has memos showing how the Obama Justice Department THREATENED him when he attempted to file a lawsuit to recover monies Russians stole from him and which could have drawn attention to the Russian corruption during the 2016 election.

The department threatened to bring a criminal case against him for violating the NDA, she said. The Hill also said it obtained emails from a civil attorney working with the witness that described the pressure the department was exerting on him to stay quiet.



Attorney: FBI Informant Was Blocked by Obama Administration From Testifying on Uranium One Deal
 
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Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team running the Russia collusion probe are being accused by fellow attorneys of employing aggressive and questionable tactics in past cases, potentially putting a dent in his straight-shooter image.

As the investigation heats up and key players like former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and press secretary Sean Spicer are interviewed by investigators, several attorneys with experience in federal cases spoke out with their concerns this week.

Harvey Silverglate, a criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts, wrote an opinion piece accusing Mueller of once trying to entrap him when Mueller was acting U.S. attorney in Boston.

“I have known Mueller during key moments of his career as a federal prosecutor,” Silverglate wrote for WGBH News. “My experience has taught me to approach whatever he does in the Trump investigation with a requisite degree of skepticism or, at the very least, extreme caution.”
According to Silverglate, Mueller once sent someone into Silverglate's office offering to give false testimony for a client. Silverglate said he turned the offer down and noticed the man was wearing a wire.


“Years later I ran into Mueller, and I told him of my disappointment in being the target of a sting where there was no reason to think that I would knowingly present perjured evidence to a court,” Silverglate wrote. “Mueller, half-apologetically, told me that he never really thought that I would suborn perjury, but that he had a duty to pursue the lead given to him.”

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment.

Sidney Powell, a former federal prosecutor, also took aim at Andrew Weissmann, the prosecutor tapped by Mueller to help lead the investigation, in a piece this week titled, “Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice.”



Powell accused Weissmann, once the director of the Enron Task Force, of “prosecutorial overreach” in past cases and said it could signal what’s to come for President Trump and his associates in the Russia probe.

“What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president,” Powell wrote in The Hill. “The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.”

Powell cited several cases where Weissmann won convictions that were later overturned.

MORE HERE:
Mueller team criticized by fellow attorneys for history of questionable tactics | Fox News
 
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Bad day for people peddling the Trump/Russia collusion theory:

1. WaPo reports Clinton campaign and DNC funded the work for the Steele dossier - interesting how oppo research made it's way into the US intel community. A campaign hires a foreign former agent to dig up dirt on an opponent and some of the dirt came from research gathered by the Russians. Hmmmm.

2. Trey Gowdy when asked about evidence of collusion says no witness has provided any evidence of collusion or cooperation so far and the investigation is still ongoing but clearly most of the info has been reviewed.

3. Tucker Carlson has a source from the Podesta group who is claiming Manafort worked with the PG representing Russian interests all through the early Obama years including those where HC was SoS and the Clinton Foundation was raking in millions from Russia connected business interests.

We know Mueller is investigating both the Podesta group and Manafort. It appears that Manafort may be of more interest for his connections to the PG than for those to Trump.

This thing may come back to bite Dems
 
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