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Mick said:
Besides a candidate like that would require a lot of money so that rules out an honest hard working man/woman. What's it cost now days half a billion dollars, your first born, and friends in low places?
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no it requires getting rid of corrupt, colluding, money laundering system we now have in DC. and not just the white house.

honestly I think that a lottery means of selecting our government officials would be a better system than what we have now.
 
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LouderVol said:
no it requires getting rid of corrupt, colluding, money laundering system we now have in DC. and not just the white house.

honestly I think that a lottery means of selecting our government officials would be a better system than what we have now.
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Restrict congress being in session to 4 months per year except for national emergency.

Term limits of 12 years.

No pension or lifetime health benefits.

They cannot exempt themselves from laws they pass.

Repeal the 17th amendment.

Those should take care of it.
 
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midnight orange said:
William Henry Harrison because he died shortly after inauguration. Past that, I'm drawing a blank.
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Good one.

We had "I Survived the Hall of Presidents" t-shirts with a picture of William Henry Harrison on them made for a Disney trip a few years ago. Almost no one got it.

Your complete distrust and dislike of government officials mirrors my dislike and distrust of the corporate elite. I'm sure there is scum and honor to be found in both groups.
 
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LouderVol said:
no it requires getting rid of corrupt, colluding, money laundering system we now have in DC. and not just the white house.

honestly I think that a lottery means of selecting our government officials would be a better system than what we have now.
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The first step would to vote out everyone that was for citizens united and vote for a president that would appoint a Justice to undo that decision. But Idiots going to idiot but finally they may overturn Roe V Wade (single issue voter mentality).
 
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luthervol said:
Good one.

We had "I Survived the Hall of Presidents" t-shirts with a picture of William Henry Harrison on them made for a Disney trip a few years ago. Almost no one got it.

Your complete distrust and dislike of government officials mirrors my dislike and distrust of the corporate elite. I'm sure there is scum and honor to be found in both groups.
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That’s funny and makes for a good t shirt. I was just giving you a hard time. If I had to pick a few presidents from last century whom I thought were probably not psychopaths, I would probably say Carter, JFK, Hoover and Coolidge. Doesn’t mean they were good presidents (Hoover) or flawless (JFK), just my best guess.

I also distrust the corporate elite, especially those that use legislation and regulation to crowd out competition or mooch off the taxpayer. The only difference is the corporation can't jail me
 
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From WaPo. The Liars Paradox. Good stuff...

...Trump’s anger has clouded his PR sense. In essence, he’s promoting the Wolff book. The president and the presidency are unraveling. Trump is unloved in his own house. A figure of ridicule, a theatrical creation, he is almost sympathetic. He was told by the greedy and the outright stupid that he would make a swell president. The Liar’s Paradox has spun out of control, with liars lying to a liar who believed the lie. What would that be called?

Fox News, I think.
 
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President Trump gave firm instructions in March to the White House’s top lawyer: stop the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, from recusing himself in the Justice Department’s investigation into whether Mr. Trump’s associates had helped a Russian campaign to disrupt the 2016 election.

Donald F. McGahn II, carried out the president’s orders and lobbied Mr. Sessions to remain in charge of the inquiry, according to two people with knowledge of the episode.

Obstruction Inquiry Shows Trump’s Struggle to Keep Grip on Russia Investigation - The New York Times

The lobbying of Mr. Sessions is one of several previously unreported episodes that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has learned about as he investigates whether Mr. Trump obstructed the F.B.I.’s Russia inquiry
The special counsel has received handwritten notes from Mr. Trump’s former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, showing that Mr. Trump talked to Mr. Priebus about how he had called Mr. Comey to urge him to say publicly that he was not under investigation.

Mr. Trump watched a recording of Mr. Comey’s testimony, stewed about the F.B.I. director (for not saying Trump was not under investigation) and discussed the possibility of dismissing him with his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller. He had decided he would fire Mr. Comey, and asked Mr. Miller to help put together a letter the president intended to send to Mr. Comey.

In interviews with The Times, White House officials have said the letter contained no references to Russia or the F.B.I.’s investigation. According to two people who have read it, however, the letter’s first sentence said the Russia investigation had been “fabricated and politically motivated.”

On Monday, May 8, Mr. Trump met with Mr. Sessions and Mr. Rosenstein to discuss firing Mr. Comey, and Mr. Rosenstein agreed to write his own memo outlining why Mr. Comey should be fired. Before writing it, he took a copy of the letter that Mr. Trump and Mr. Miller had drafted during the weekend in Bedminster.
 
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Questions from NYT revelations:

Did the House Intelligence Committee have this information and if so is it obstruction to not allow a subpoena request to get testimony from the witnesses or just negligence?
 
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Mick said:
Questions from NYT revelations:

Did the House Intelligence Committee have this information and if so is it obstruction to not allow a subpoena request to get testimony from the witnesses or just negligence?
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It’s “extreme carelessness”.
 
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Two days after Mr. Comey’s testimony, an aide to Mr. Sessions approached a Capitol Hill staff member asking whether the staffer had any derogatory information about the F.B.I. director. The attorney general wanted one negative article a day in the news media about Mr. Comey, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
 
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Mick said:
Two days after Mr. Comey’s testimony, an aide to Mr. Sessions approached a Capitol Hill staff member asking whether the staffer had any derogatory information about the F.B.I. director. The attorney general wanted one negative article a day in the news media about Mr. Comey, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
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Another anonymous source and no link.
 
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