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#18,476
The crummy Muler investigation has been going on for like forever.

I just want to know when in the hell is Muler going to get to the Trump-Russia-Collusion part of the investigation.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Once again, can you point to even one claim which is verifiably false?
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Can you tell me who out there is trying to prove any of it false? You didn't prove any of it true - investigative reporting over the last year or so provided that information and with all that effort they came up with 6 or 7 things. For the life of me I don't see how you conclude it has been mostly proven true from that.

Once again you ignore the question about why the Russians would be totally truthful with Steele about their plans.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The crummy Muler investigation has been going on for like forever.

I just want to know when in the hell is Muler going to get to the Trump-Russia-Collusion part of the investigation.
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Steve Bannon has now been interviewed twice by Robert Mueller. What do you think they're talking about? The upcoming holiday movie season? The recently released e-mail exchange between Bannon and Roger Stone clearly shows how Roger Stone sold himself to the Trump campaign as a conduit to WikiLeaks ("I Love WikiLeaks!" - Trump).
 
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volinbham said:
Can you tell me who out there is trying to prove any of it false? You didn't prove any of it true - investigative reporting over the last year or so provided that information and with all that effort they came up with 6 or 7 things. For the life of me I don't see how you conclude it has been mostly proven true from that.

Once again you ignore the question about why the Russians would be totally truthful with Steele about their plans.
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The Russians are evil and Trump is all up in that. No way there not being truthful to the T.
 
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... and as far as collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia is concerned, a primary defense by the Trump team has always been that they had no prior knowledge of when the WikiLeaks documents (Clinton e-mails provided to them by Russian operatives) would be released. The Trump campaign has insisted that there was no effort between themselves and WikiLeaks to coordinate the timing of the releases to mitigate a bad news day for Trump (such as the day the Access Hollywood video became public - October 7, 2016) with a document dump. If so, how would you explain this? :

* On October 3, 2016, Roger Stone posted this to Twitter: "I have total confidence that @wikileaks and my hero Julian Assange will educate the American people soon. #LockHerUp."

* Many Trump supporters who had been anxiously waiting for an imminent WikiLeaks release following Stone's tweet, were left disappointed the next day, October 4, 2016, when Julian Assange announced that he would be posting a cache of documents weekly that would include some material related to the 2016 election, but then denied that WikiLeaks intended to harm Clinton, saying that such suggestions were "false".

* In the wake of Assange's disappointing announcement, Bannon fired off an e-mail to Stone (also on October 4) which asked:

Steve Bannon: "What was that this morning?"

...and Stone's reply:

Roger Stone: "Fear. Serious security concern. He (Assange) thinks they are going to kill him and the London police are standing done (down). However - a load every week going forward."

* Days later, WikiLeaks released the first batch of material - e-mails stolen from the account of Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The October 7, 2016, document dump came just hours after the The Washington Post released audio from "Access Hollywood" in which Trump boasted of kissing and groping women without their permission and included the infamous comment, "Grab 'em by the pu$$y." WikiLeaks proceeded to dribble out the Podesta e-mails a thousand or so a day until election day... in spite of what Assange had announced on October 4, 2016 - Roger Stone had been exactly right with what he had told Steve Bannon in his e-mail later that same day.

* This is proof of collusion between the Trump campaign (Steve Bannon) and WikiLeaks (Julian Assange by way of Roger Stone who was acting as an intermediary). Collusion with WikiLeaks equates to collusion with Russian operatives since it was Russia (per our intelligence community) who stole the documents which WikiLeaks was releasing.
 
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BB, that looks suspiciously conspiratorial. At this point, i hope they find something for you and the other collusion theorists' which warrants all the chatter.
 
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McDad said:
BB, that looks suspiciously conspiratorial. At this point, i hope they find something for you and the other collusion theorists' which warrants all the chatter.
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How so? It looks cut and dry that Roger Stone had advanced knowledge of the WikiLeaks document dumps and when they would be coming. Look at the timing! On October 3, Stone predicts on Twitter that WikiLeaks dumps are coming soon and will be damaging to Hillary Clinton. On October 4, Assange states publicly that although some dumps are coming, their intent is not to damage Clinton. Later that same day, Bannon e-mails Stone expressing concern over Assange's announcement. Stone then reassures Bannon that the WikiLeaks dumps are coming and that they will indeed be damaging to Clinton - Assange was merely spooked. Three days later on October 7, there was the first of the WikiLeaks document dumps that included Podesta's e-mails. Stone knew exactly what he was talking about! There is nothing conspiratorial about reaching that conclusion. This is collusion in black and white.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How so? It looks cut and dry that Roger Stone had advanced knowledge of the WikiLeaks document dumps and when they would be coming. Look at the timing! On October 3, Stone predicts on Twitter that WikiLeaks dumps are coming soon and will be damaging to Hillary Clinton. On October 4, Assange states publicly that although some dumps are coming, their intent is not to damage Clinton. Later that same day, Bannon e-mails Stone expressing concern over Assange's announcement. Stone then reassures Bannon that the WikiLeaks dumps are coming and that they will indeed be damaging to Clinton - Assange was merely spooked. There is nothing conspiratorial about reaching that conclusion. This is collusion in black and white.
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You gonna stick around and participate if it isnt collusion?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How so? It looks cut and dry that Roger Stone had advanced knowledge of the WikiLeaks document dumps and when they would be coming. Look at the timing! On October 3, Stone predicts on Twitter that WikiLeaks dumps are coming soon and will be damaging to Hillary Clinton. On October 4, Assange states publicly that although some dumps are coming, their intent is not to damage Clinton. Later that same day, Bannon e-mails Stone expressing concern over Assange's announcement. Stone then reassures Bannon that the WikiLeaks dumps are coming and that they will indeed be damaging to Clinton - Assange was merely spooked. There is nothing conspiratorial about reaching that conclusion. This is collusion in black and white.
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So this is what mueller is going to present to the DOJ and the public ?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
A portion of it, definitely. Stone has always maintained that he had no advanced knowledge of when the WikiLeaks dumps would be coming. His e-mail to Bannon shows that was a lie.
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If mueller doesn’t bring more than that and the Dems try to impeach ( if they take the house ) they will make Trump out to be a folk hero ( again ) fighting the DC machine and he will win a second term .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't think a man like Mueller has spent a year and a half of his life on this to conclude nothing do you? Especially when he has people like Stone lying their butts off?
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Honestly im intentionally not attempting to connect dots, make suppositions, and predict outcomes.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't think a man like Mueller has spent a year and a half of his life on this to conclude nothing do you? Especially when he has people like Stone lying their butts off?
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....and i hope youll stick around if it doesnt go your way.
 
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0nelilreb said:
If mueller doesn’t bring more than that and the Dems try to impeach ( if they take the house ) they will make Trump out to be a folk hero ( again ) fighting the DC machine and he will win a second term .
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I don't think there will be an impeachment. The goal here should be to prove collusion and then use it as a campaign weapon in 2020. Not just against Trump, but the Republican party. Put them in a position to defend this and portray them as unpatriotic for colluding with a foreign adversary... and then defending it. It's not about impeachment, it's about the 2020 election.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think there will be an impeachment. The goal here should be to prove collusion and then use it as a campaign weapon in 2020. Not just against Trump, but the Republican party. Put them in a position to defend this and portray them as unpatriotic for colluding with a foreign adversary... and then defending it. It's not about impeachment, it's about the 2020 election.
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I agree with that , it’s a good campaign tactic . The question is .. who draws the short straw to keep watch / hog tie and gag Maxiene to keep her from ruining it ?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't think a man like Mueller has spent a year and a half of his life on this to conclude nothing do you? Especially when he has people like Stone lying their butts off?
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No, that's why he's still on the job. He's desperately trying to find anything to justify his last hurrah of relevance.
 
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#18,495
BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think there will be an impeachment. The goal here should be to prove collusion and then use it as a campaign weapon in 2020. Not just against Trump, but the Republican party. Put them in a position to defend this and portray them as unpatriotic for colluding with a foreign adversary... and then defending it. It's not about impeachment, it's about the 2020 election.
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You finally admit it, thanks.
 
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After reading BBs post LG and Luther will need an extra tall glass of wine tonight to calm their nerves .
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not yet. But that is going to come from the highest sources. By definition it is highly secret. We may never know it for sure because to tell us would expose the most important intelligence we have.

The exact motive for all his bending over backwards for Putin, his constantly selling us out to them, the lies, the make nice to them at every turn, thwarting sanctions ....

There's a reason for that. If you think it's just because Trump earnestly believes its good policy, all that proves is that he's an imbecile.

I think at this point that we all know better. They have the goods on him.
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Hilarious. You believe everything you post 🤣🤣😂
 
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