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BowlBrother85 said:
... and as far as collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia is concerned, a primary defense by the Trump team has always been that they had no prior knowledge of when the WikiLeaks documents (Clinton e-mails provided to them by Russian operatives) would be released. The Trump campaign has insisted that there was no effort between themselves and WikiLeaks to coordinate the timing of the releases to mitigate a bad news day for Trump (such as the day the Access Hollywood video became public - October 7, 2016) with a document dump. If so, how would you explain this? :

* On October 3, 2016, Roger Stone posted this to Twitter: "I have total confidence that @wikileaks and my hero Julian Assange will educate the American people soon. #LockHerUp."

* Many Trump supporters who had been anxiously waiting for an imminent WikiLeaks release following Stone's tweet, were left disappointed the next day, October 4, 2016, when Julian Assange announced that he would be posting a cache of documents weekly that would include some material related to the 2016 election, but then denied that WikiLeaks intended to harm Clinton, saying that such suggestions were "false".

* In the wake of Assange's disappointing announcement, Bannon fired off an e-mail to Stone (also on October 4) which asked:

Steve Bannon: "What was that this morning?"

...and Stone's reply:

Roger Stone: "Fear. Serious security concern. He (Assange) thinks they are going to kill him and the London police are standing done (down). However - a load every week going forward."

* Days later, WikiLeaks released the first batch of material - e-mails stolen from the account of Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The October 7, 2016, document dump came just hours after the The Washington Post released audio from "Access Hollywood" in which Trump boasted of kissing and groping women without their permission and included the infamous comment, "Grab 'em by the pu$$y." WikiLeaks proceeded to dribble out the Podesta e-mails a thousand or so a day until election day... in spite of what Assange had announced on October 4, 2016 - Roger Stone had been exactly right with what he had told Steve Bannon in his e-mail later that same day.

* This is proof of collusion between the Trump campaign (Steve Bannon) and WikiLeaks (Julian Assange by way of Roger Stone who was acting as an intermediary). Collusion with WikiLeaks equates to collusion with Russian operatives since it was Russia (per our intelligence community) who stole the documents which WikiLeaks was releasing.
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Speaking of killarys emails....

I’m glad you reminded me...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think there will be an impeachment. The goal here should be to prove collusion and then use it as a campaign weapon in 2020. Not just against Trump, but the Republican party. Put them in a position to defend this and portray them as unpatriotic for colluding with a foreign adversary... and then defending it. It's not about impeachment, it's about the 2020 election.
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Who's goal should this be? Mueller?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How so? It looks cut and dry that Roger Stone had advanced knowledge of the WikiLeaks document dumps and when they would be coming. Look at the timing! On October 3, Stone predicts on Twitter that WikiLeaks dumps are coming soon and will be damaging to Hillary Clinton. On October 4, Assange states publicly that although some dumps are coming, their intent is not to damage Clinton. Later that same day, Bannon e-mails Stone expressing concern over Assange's announcement. Stone then reassures Bannon that the WikiLeaks dumps are coming and that they will indeed be damaging to Clinton - Assange was merely spooked. Three days later on October 7, there was the first of the WikiLeaks document dumps that included Podesta's e-mails. Stone knew exactly what he was talking about! There is nothing conspiratorial about reaching that conclusion. This is collusion in black and white.
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Everybody on the internet knew in advance that the leaks were coming. Wikileaks tweeted about them extensively leading up to them.
 
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Trump has fired Sessions. Sessions looks like he might not go as quietly as Trump might hope.

And now Trump has breached protocol and substituted in a loyalist who is on record criticizing the Mueller investigation.

Then, Trump takes away from Rosenstein the authority to run the Muller investigation and gives it to -- guess who? The Trump loyalist.

The case for obstruction is getting stronger by the minute. And the reason for it, the underlying collusion or other criminal activity, is becoming more apparent as well as the motivation for Trump's effort to try to evade justice.

The Dems now run the House: Thank God we have someone in place that Trump can't dodge. Trump's last gasp is upon us.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump has fired Sessions. Sessions looks like he might not go as quietly as Trump might hope.

And now Trump has breached protocol and substituted in a loyalist who is on record criticizing the Mueller investigation.

Then, Trump takes away from Rosenstein the authority to run the Muller investigation and gives it to -- guess who? The Trump loyalist.

The case for obstruction is getting stronger by the minute. And the reason for it, the underlying collusion or other criminal activity, is becoming more apparent as well as the motivation for Trump's effort to try to evade justice.

The Dems now run the House: Thank God we have someone in place that Trump can't dodge. Trump's last gasp is upon us.
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Have you ever heard the term "Chain of Command"?

The AG is in charge of special prosecutor investigations unless they recuse themselves.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump has fired Sessions. Sessions looks like he might not go as quietly as Trump might hope.

And now Trump has breached protocol and substituted in a loyalist who is on record criticizing the Mueller investigation.

Then, Trump takes away from Rosenstein the authority to run the Muller investigation and gives it to -- guess who? The Trump loyalist.

The case for obstruction is getting stronger by the minute. And the reason for it, the underlying collusion or other criminal activity, is becoming more apparent as well as the motivation for Trump's effort to try to evade justice.

The Dems now run the House: Thank God we have someone in place that Trump can't dodge. Trump's last gasp is upon us.
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Doubt it, you’ve been claiming trumps agonal breathing for months. Now we have someone overseeing and accessible to RR actions. It’s perfect.
 
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hog88 said:
Have you ever heard the term "Chain of Command"?

The AG is in charge of special prosecutor investigations unless they recuse themselves.
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Rosenstein has been in charge of this one.

It has been taken away from him and placed under the Trump loyalist, correct?

And the way he accomplished that was by breaching protocol and skipping over Rod as the acting AG, by substituting in the loyalist who was simply chief of staff.

Pretty obvious what he's up to. It is indefensible.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rosenstein has been in charge of this one.

It has been taken away from him and placed under the Trump loyalist, correct?

And the way he accomplished that was by breaching protocol and skipping over Rod as the acting AG, by substituting in the loyalist who was simply chief of staff.

Pretty obvious what he's up to. It is indefensible.
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Rosenstein should have recused himself moreso than Sessions due to his hands being all over the FISA warrants. You conveniently ignore that though.

What would be hilarious is if now that Rosenstein can’t fly top cover over his own f-ups that he finally gets called on the FISA crap and is demoted/reprimanded or perhaps even indicted if it’s bad enough and meets the bar. 😈
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rosenstein has been in charge of this one.

It has been taken away from him and placed under the Trump loyalist, correct?

And the way he accomplished that was by breaching protocol and skipping over Rod as the acting AG, by substituting in the loyalist who was simply chief of staff.

Pretty obvious what he's up to. It is indefensible.
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Considering RR was never acting AG, as long as session was present that’s funny. Haven’t you learned, protocol can be changed. It’s done everyday.
Trump can pick who he wants.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rosenstein has been in charge of this one.

It has been taken away from him and placed under the Trump loyalist, correct?

And the way he accomplished that was by breaching protocol and skipping over Rod as the acting AG, by substituting in the loyalist who was simply chief of staff.

Pretty obvious what he's up to. It is indefensible.
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I think with the resignation of Sessions and the the appointment of a new AG automatically removed control from Hot Rod.

AG is an appointed position so he didn't skip anyone.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Rosenstein should have recused himself moreso than Sessions due to his hands being all over the FISA warrants. You conveniently ignore that though.

What would be hilarious is if now that Rosenstein can’t fly top cover over his own f-ups that he finally gets called on the FISA crap and is demoted/reprimanded or perhaps even indicted if it’s bad enough and meets the bar. 😈
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Definite conflict of interest.
 
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