TrumPutinGate

[hog88]

Because most candidates have a plan and a vision for the country. He was just out there to promote his brand.

You think Clinton and Obama ran because of altruistic beliefs? Come on.

Anyone running for POTUS is an egomaniac looking for personal advancement.

 

[Mick]

It is.

It’s also consistent with the narrative that a co-conspirator can grant a more favorable outcome (pardon) than the government is offering. If the plea agreement doesn’t prohibit it and Mueller doesn’t object to it, it would be foolish for Manafort’s attorney’s to not maintain leverage by cozying up to Trump’s legal team.



I think half the time I totally agree with you and the other half I totally disagree. I’m not sure how I should feel about that.

On this I disagree. How can you say there’s no proof trump did anything illegal but then make the assumption that Mueller is manufacturing evidence? There’s been no proof of that, either.

Thanks for the timeline link.

 

[C-south]

Because most candidates have a plan and a vision for the country. He was just out there to promote his brand.

Anything he does will be better than Barry’s and Killary’s “vision”.

 

[volfanjustin]

Yeah... it makes perfect sense to refer to a man who volunteered for service in Vietnam as "anti-American" while defending someone who used a deferment for bone spurs as a "patriot". Only the most tribal of thinkers would apply such twisted logic.

Anyone who puts forth America first policies is a patriot, a scum bag trying to bring down a fairly elected President because he is a bitter never Trumper is not a patriot I don't give a damn what he done 40 years ago.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Anyone who puts forth America first policies is a patriot, a scum bag trying to bring down a fairly elected President because he is a bitter never Trumper is not a patriot I don't give a damn what he done 40 years ago.

Trump's policies are nativist and revolve around isolationism. His rhetoric is pure red meat for his base.

 

[1972 Grad]

Buh bye, Donny.

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[volfanjustin]

Trump's policies are nativist and revolve around isolationism. His rhetoric is pure red meat for his base.

Good, because unlike you far left loons I don't give a damn what Venezuela thinks or wants

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump's policies are nativist and revolve around isolationism. His rhetoric is pure red meat for his base.

You do know why it red meat don’t you ? Because enough people are sick of our last president trying to make America European Again . We decided a long time ago that wasn’t what we wanted and the more progressive liberals push in that direction the more pushback you’ll see .

 

[TheDeeble]

Am I missing something here?

Trump was looking at a project in Moscow at one time and that was known. Cohen says he(Cohen) lied about when the talks about that project ended. That's it? That's what everyone is worked up about?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-misleading-congress/index.html

(CNN)President Donald Trump spoke with Michael Cohen more extensively about the proposed Trump Tower project in Moscow than Cohen previously told Congress, Cohen admitted in federal court Thursday.
Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, pleaded guilty Thursday to making false statements to Congress about the Russia investigation in a charge brought by special counsel Robert Mueller.

READ: Michael Cohen's plea agreement
Cohen had previously said talks about the Moscow project had ended in January 2016 just prior to the Iowa caucuses.
Cohen waived his right to an indictment when he appeared in a New York federal court.


"In truth and in fact, and as Cohen well knew, Cohen's representations about the Moscow Project he made to (House and Senate intelligence committees) were false and misleading," Mueller's office said in a court filing.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Am I missing something here?

Trump was looking at a project in Moscow at one time and that was known. Cohen says he(Cohen) lied about when the talks about that project ended. That's it? That's what everyone is worked up about?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-misleading-congress/index.html

Lying to Congress is no small thing... but more importantly, why did he lie? That needs to be known.

 

[evillawyer]

Crazy Libs, amirite?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Crazy Libs, amirite?

.... and how many times did he lie during the campaign about this?

 

[Velo Vol]

You think Clinton and Obama ran because of altruistic beliefs? Come on.

I didn't say they ran on altruism, I said they had a plan of things to accomplish (agree with it or not).

Trump ran on stuff like "we're going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it."

That's not a plan, that's gibberish.

Ask yourself how Trump's healthcare plan fared in Congress. Oh wait, he never had one.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[justvollowing]

You do know why it red meat don’t you ? Because enough people are sick of our last president trying to make America European Again . We decided a long time ago that wasn’t what we wanted and the more progressive liberals push in that direction the more pushback you’ll see .

Yeah, they try to label us as ignorant liars, and greedy cheaters. But that's just our president. We're really all just insecure middle aged white guys living in rural America scared of what the future holds as globalization and gender hegemony continues to shift the America away from the way it always was...a time where things were just so much more simple.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Mueller, you and every other democrat are anti American. But if this is the new low you all want to set then fine let's do it. Don't cry when it's your sides turn

I see it a little differently. Republicans have trotted out this little gem and the grass roots folks are eating up. If you don't agree with us you're anti american... Got news, you are in the minority. More Americans disagree with the Republicans vision of America than agree. Much as Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables galvanized the Republicans, this strategy by the Republicans labeling democrats as anti american will back fire in 2020.

 

[hog88]

I didn't say they ran on altruism, I said they had a plan of things to accomplish (agree with it or not).

Trump ran on stuff like "we're going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it."

That's not a plan, that's gibberish.

Ask yourself how Trump's healthcare plan fared in Congress. Oh wait, he never had one.

He had a plan, he has been successful in in implementing some of his plan and unsuccessful in others but you can't honestly say that he didn't have a plan outside of personal enrichment.

 

[carlos86]

Am I missing something here?

Trump was looking at a project in Moscow at one time and that was known. Cohen says he(Cohen) lied about when the talks about that project ended. That's it? That's what everyone is worked up about?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-misleading-congress/index.html

You missed the other sudjects he lied about.

 

[volfanjustin]

0 people convicted or charged with "collusion"

 

[volfanjustin]

I see it a little differently. Republicans have trotted out this little gem and the grass roots folks are eating up. If you don't agree with us you're anti american... Got news, you are in the minority. More Americans disagree with the Republicans vision of America than agree. Much as Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables galvanized the Republicans, this strategy by the Republicans labeling democrats as anti american will back fire in 2020.

I would say most people are against the democrat tactics of using antifa to beat and intimidate people. Most people are against finding made up victims to try to derail a SC justice's nomination.

 

[carlos86]

The FBI just raided Trump’s tax Attorney’s office.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

0 people convicted or charged with "collusion"

You are just a machine at trotting out the company line. There is no crime for collusion, but are you okay with candidates for the presidency engaging foreign governments, in this case an enemy, to gather dirt political opponents? To "partner" with to run campaigns of misinformation to attempt to influence our elections? Are you really ok with that kind of thing?

 

[volfanjustin]

You are just a machine at trotting out the company line. There is no crime for collusion, but are you okay with candidates for the presidency engaging foreign governments, in this case an enemy, to gather dirt political opponents? To "partner" with to run campaigns of misinformation to attempt to influence our elections? Are you really ok with that kind of thing?

Wait a minute, Barry told us Russia was not an enemy but now they are? Every single person to ever run for office would have took the same damn meeting so quit trying to act like your democrat candidates are above such thing. And that is still not illegal

 

[hog88]

You are just a machine at trotting out the company line. There is no crime for collusion, but are you okay with candidates for the presidency engaging foreign governments, in this case an enemy, to gather dirt political opponents? To "partner" with to run campaigns of misinformation to attempt to influence our elections? Are you really ok with that kind of thing?

I'm not in the least ok with any of that. I want to see some proof any of this actually happened before I convict someone and after a year and 1/2 I'd think there would be at least 1 person charged with crimes associated with the election if any of it did happen.

 

[Matt2496]

You are just a machine at trotting out the company line. There is no crime for collusion, but are you okay with candidates for the presidency engaging foreign governments, in this case an enemy, to gather dirt political opponents? To "partner" with to run campaigns of misinformation to attempt to influence our elections? Are you really ok with that kind of thing?

No proof anything like that happened related to Trump.