TrumPutinGate

[AirVol]

Rep. Adam Schiff told CNN Thursday that he had seen additional evidence, but would not specify what it was.

Where's the screechers? Trump mentions evidence of wiretapping and the Dims scream where's the evidence.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Maybe. But it could also be Watergate 2 on acid. Like most people, I'd just like to know if all this smoke is real or just political BS. Schiff summarized it well recently when he listed 'coincidences', but acknowledged they could be just that.

At this point, Nunes must recuse himself, but he's got that deer-in-the-headlights look. He's just the Donald's puppet.

Going by past practice of these politicians and I mean all, it's probably bs.

 

[Velo Vol]

Rep. Adam Schiff told CNN Thursday that he had seen additional evidence, but would not specify what it was.

Where's the screechers? Trump mentions evidence of wiretapping and the Dims scream where's the evidence.

If it's classified Schiff is not supposed to disclose it to the public.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

The truth is already out there, you just refuse to accept it.

Cool story, Bro. Meanwhile back on Earth:

End the Nunes charade, and follow the Russian money

By Jennifer Rubin WaPo

March 29 at 10:30 AM 

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) is under fire from Democrats who say the House intelligence committee chair should recuse himself from the committee's investigation into Russia, because he's too close to President Trump. Can Nunes retain his credibility as the investigation plays out? (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)

The Post reports:

The House Intelligence Committee’s probe of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, including potential ties between the Trump team and the Kremlin, is effectively on hold, after its chairman said the panel would not interview more witnesses until two intelligence chiefs return to Capitol Hill for a still-unscheduled private briefing.

Committee Chairman Devin Nunes’s declaration Tuesday that “until [FBI Director James B.] Comey comes forward, it’s hard for us to move forward with interviews and depositions” comes as an indefinite stop order on a roster of expected interviews and testimony, from top Trump campaign surrogates to top intelligence and law enforcement officials serving during the election and transition period.

Nunes still refuses to reveal to fellow committee members the identity of the source for his purported information about surveillance of the Trump team. That and his inability to provide a believable and complete account of his jaunt to the White House (Who let him in?) should disqualify him as chairman and as a member of the committee.

 

[Sin City Vol]

Cool story, Bro. Meanwhile back on Earth:

End the Nunes charade, and follow the Russian money

By Jennifer Rubin WaPo

March 29 at 10:30 AM 

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) is under fire from Democrats who say the House intelligence committee chair should recuse himself from the committee's investigation into Russia, because he's too close to President Trump. Can Nunes retain his credibility as the investigation plays out? (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)

The Post reports:

The House Intelligence Committee’s probe of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, including potential ties between the Trump team and the Kremlin, is effectively on hold, after its chairman said the panel would not interview more witnesses until two intelligence chiefs return to Capitol Hill for a still-unscheduled private briefing.

Committee Chairman Devin Nunes’s declaration Tuesday that “until [FBI Director James B.] Comey comes forward, it’s hard for us to move forward with interviews and depositions” comes as an indefinite stop order on a roster of expected interviews and testimony, from top Trump campaign surrogates to top intelligence and law enforcement officials serving during the election and transition period.

Nunes still refuses to reveal to fellow committee members the identity of the source for his purported information about surveillance of the Trump team. That and his inability to provide a believable and complete account of his jaunt to the White House (Who let him in?) should disqualify him as chairman and as a member of the committee.

This comes as we learn more and more about Russian money. Remember how President Trump claimed that he had nothing to do financially with Russia? Well, according to an investigation by USA Today, that doesn’t quite give us the whole picture:

To expand his real estate developments over the years, Donald Trump, his company and partners repeatedly turned to wealthy Russians and oligarchs from former Soviet republics — several allegedly connected to organized crime, according to a USA TODAY review of court cases, government and legal documents and an interview with a former federal prosecutor.

The president and his companies have been linked to at least 10 wealthy former Soviet businessmen with alleged ties to criminal organizations or money laundering.

Any credible intelligence investigation would demand a full accounting and explanation for Trump’s claim of non-involvement with Russian deals. Then there is Paul Manafort, whom Sean Spicer treats like someone who ambled by the campaign office. Trump’s former campaign manager has his own peculiar money trail:

A bank in Cyprus investigated accounts associated with President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, for possible money-laundering, two banking sources with direct knowledge of his businesses here told NBC News.

Manafort — whose ties to a Russian oligarch close to President Vladimir Putin are under scrutiny — was associated with at least 15 bank accounts and 10 companies on Cyprus, dating back to 2007, the sources said. At least one of those companies was used to receive millions of dollars from a billionaire Putin ally, according to court documents.

Once again, a glimpse into the Russian connections of Trump and his team (Did they have such robust dealings with any other country?) suggests that there needs to be a full accounting of money flowing between Russia oligarchs and officials and also between Trump’s family and advisers. No fair-minded person can credibly claim that Nunes is the man to lead the inquiry.

Given all of this, Democrats would be wise to take several steps. First, they should refuse to participate in Nunes’s half-baked investigation. He has made a mockery of the bipartisan tradition of the intelligence committee. Democrats should walk out and refuse to give him the veneer of credibility. Certainly, the Senate Intelligence Committee can take on an appropriate oversight role that should include an investigation of Trump’s and Manafort’s finances. Second, Democrats should introduce legislation requiring the president to disclose his most recent tax return (which cannot be under audit) as well as returns for those years that Trump says are no longer under audit. Republicans’ refusal to go along with this basic level of transparency should make clear the degree to which they are enabling the president to escape scrutiny. Third, Democrats should demand a select committee to investigate Trump’s almost certain violation of the emoluments clause.

Republicans will block all of that, you say? Of course they will. Democrats then should run in 2018 asking voters to give them the majority. The House GOP leadership’s utter incompetence and refusal to perform its constitutional oversight obligations have demonstrated that the Republican Party isn’t fit to govern. If we ever to get to the bottom of the Russia scandal, the GOP will need to radically change its approach — or barring that, be booted out of the majority.

UPDATE: Count Elijah Cummings (Md.), ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, among those fed up with Nunes. “This drip-drip-drip is turning into a steady gush of connections to Russian interests,” Cummings told Right Turn. “Instead of interviewing key witnesses about their dealings with Russia, House Republicans abruptly halted the proceedings and now have nothing on the calendar, even though the White House claims they want the testimony to go forward.” He added, “Both House and Senate Republicans are now recognizing the need for an independent commission. How long will it take Speaker Ryan?”

View attachment 129684

This is not Trumps first alleged workings with criminals. It's we'll know. He has done business with people like this in NY

 

[AirVol]

If it's classified Schiff is not supposed to disclose it to the public.

Maybe Trumps evidence is classified too.

Isn't that how it works?

 

[lawgator1]

The Senate Committee says it is going to talk to 20 witnesses. Ryan criticizes the administration for being at war with the press.

Mainstream GOP can read the writing on the walls. They want nothing to do with Trump.

He's as good as out.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

More "Fake News" on Russia:

Trump's business network reached alleged Russian mobsters

Oren Dorell , USA TODAY Published 5:05 p.m. ET March 28, 2017 | Updated 16 hours ago

To expand his real estate developments over the years, Donald Trump, his company and partners repeatedly turned to wealthy Russians and oligarchs from former Soviet republics — several allegedly connected to organized crime, according to a USA TODAY review of court cases, government and legal documents and an interview with a former federal prosecutor.

The president and his companies have been linked to at least 10 wealthy former Soviet businessmen with alleged ties to criminal organizations or money laundering...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es-russian-mobsters-organized-crime/98321252/

 

[Velo Vol]

Not to be that guy, but it how about not pasting an entire copyrighted article to the forum?

 

[Velo Vol]

Maybe Trumps evidence is classified too.

Isn't that how it works?

He could declassify it and do so. Or provide other evidence to support the claim.

He's done neither.

 

[Burger]

Not to be that guy, but it how about not pasting an entire copyrighted article to the forum?

We're critiquing the article.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Despite the goofy title, the following article does a good job explaining how The Donald's gutting of Obama's energy policy is really, really dumb. Also touches on immigration policy.

Trump Is a Chinese Agent

NYPost.com

Thomas L. Friedman MARCH 29, 2017

The big story everyone is chasing is whether President Trump is a Russian stooge. Wrong. That’s all a smoke screen. Trump is actually a Chinese agent. He is clearly out to make China great again. Just look at the facts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

 

[Burger]

Despite the goofy title, the following article does a good job explaining how The Donald's gutting of Obama's energy policy is really, really dumb. Also touches on immigration policy.

Trump Is a Chinese Agent

NYPost.com

Thomas L. Friedman MARCH 29, 2017

The big story everyone is chasing is whether President Trump is a Russian stooge. Wrong. That’s all a smoke screen. Trump is actually a Chinese agent. He is clearly out to make China great again. Just look at the facts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

Volprof?? Obama's energy policy handcuffed the economy.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Volprof?? Obama's energy policy handcuffed the economy.

Dude. One, I'm not VP. Two, just read the article.

 

[Sin City Vol]

Despite the goofy title, the following article does a good job explaining how The Donald's gutting of Obama's energy policy is really, really dumb. Also touches on immigration policy.

Trump Is a Chinese Agent

NYPost.com

Thomas L. Friedman MARCH 29, 2017

The big story everyone is chasing is whether President Trump is a Russian stooge. Wrong. That’s all a smoke screen. Trump is actually a Chinese agent. He is clearly out to make China great again. Just look at the facts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

No way he's a Chinese agent, he hates Asian food

 

[hog88]

The Senate Committee says it is going to talk to 20 witnesses. Ryan criticizes the administration for being at war with the press.

Mainstream GOP can read the writing on the walls. They want nothing to do with Trump.

He's as good as out.

He's not getting impeached, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[golfballs]

Despite the goofy title, the following article does a good job explaining how The Donald's gutting of Obama's energy policy is really, really dumb. Also touches on immigration policy.

Trump Is a Chinese Agent

NYPost.com

Thomas L. Friedman MARCH 29, 2017

The big story everyone is chasing is whether President Trump is a Russian stooge. Wrong. That’s all a smoke screen. Trump is actually a Chinese agent. He is clearly out to make China great again. Just look at the facts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

Deserves a new thread TrumpXi Gate

 

[AirVol]

Despite the goofy title, the following article does a good job explaining how The Donald's gutting of Obama's energy policy is really, really dumb. Also touches on immigration policy.

Trump Is a Chinese Agent

NYPost.com

Thomas L. Friedman MARCH 29, 2017

The big story everyone is chasing is whether President Trump is a Russian stooge. Wrong. That’s all a smoke screen. Trump is actually a Chinese agent. He is clearly out to make China great again. Just look at the facts...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/29/...-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

It's a conspiracy.

 

[Velo Vol]

There's also something I don't get about this. The "plot," as I understand it, is:

1. The Obama White House illegally wiretapped Trump.

2. They gathered information on Trump.

3. They then did nothing with it, they sat on it until after the election/inauguration,

4. When mysterious operatives started leaking it.

That's not a very cunning plan.

Add this!

FBI Director James Comey Tried To Reveal Russian Tampering Months Before Election

FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek.

 

[hog88]

Add this!

FBI Director James Comey Tried To Reveal Russian Tampering Months Before Election

that makes absolutely no sense.

Unless they thought Trump had no chance and then once he won they figured it's a good way to destroy his administration. Very patriotic.

 

[Velo Vol]

Whatever the reason, it debunks the charge that Obama was politicizing counterintelligence.

 

[hog88]

Whatever the reason, it debunks the charge that Obama was politicizing counterintelligence.

Or it it's completely different from the Trump/Putin narrative you guys are trying sell.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Trump Russia dossier key claim 'verified'

The BBC has learned that US officials "verified" a key claim in a report about Kremlin involvement in Donald Trump's election - that a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy...

(Here's the article's concluding paragraphs)

...With each new drip of information, option three - the chance that this is all a giant mistake, an improbable series of coincidences - seems further out of reach.

Increasingly, the American people are being asked to choose between two unpalatable versions of events: abuse of power by one president or treason that put another in the White House.

It cannot be both.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

 

[lawgator1]

Elect a clown.

Expect a circus.

 

[volger]

Cool story, Bro. Meanwhile back on Earth:

End the Nunes charade, and follow the Russian money

By Jennifer Rubin WaPo

March 29 at 10:30 AM 

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) is under fire from Democrats who say the House intelligence committee chair should recuse himself from the committee's investigation into Russia, because he's too close to President Trump. Can Nunes retain his credibility as the investigation plays out? (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)

The Post reports:

The House Intelligence Committee’s probe of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, including potential ties between the Trump team and the Kremlin, is effectively on hold, after its chairman said the panel would not interview more witnesses until two intelligence chiefs return to Capitol Hill for a still-unscheduled private briefing.

Committee Chairman Devin Nunes’s declaration Tuesday that “until [FBI Director James B.] Comey comes forward, it’s hard for us to move forward with interviews and depositions” comes as an indefinite stop order on a roster of expected interviews and testimony, from top Trump campaign surrogates to top intelligence and law enforcement officials serving during the election and transition period.

Nunes still refuses to reveal to fellow committee members the identity of the source for his purported information about surveillance of the Trump team. That and his inability to provide a believable and complete account of his jaunt to the White House (Who let him in?) should disqualify him as chairman and as a member of the committee.

View attachment 129684

You are such a shill. Who can take you serious anymore?

Take away his birthday and citizenship too. You're ridiculous.