TrumPutinGate

[Stew Cook]

And our soon to be AG

Is it too early to fire Barr?

 

[evillawyer]

Man, it's beginning to look a lot like infrastructure week, amirite?

 

[Velo Vol]

For Buzzfeed's sake, I hope they dotted their i's and crossed their t's on this story.

The source screen better have been set on super high.

 

[evillawyer]

Good stuff

 

[DC_Vol]

I’m curious who leaked this story to Buzzfeed.

 

[AirVol]

Breaking news from "BuzzFeed": Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress about the Moscow Trump Tower Project. I know that some people will just roll their eyes at this because it comes from BuzzFeed, but this becomes a big deal if this is what Cohen testifies to before Congress on February 7th. That is the President of the United States instructing his personal attorney to commit a crime.

The Russian collusion Coup didn’t work so they got to fabricate something else.

 

[AirVol]

Man, it's beginning to look a lot like infrastructure week, amirite?

Yee, the ACE are already moving into the southern border.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yee, the ACE are already moving into the southern border.

We should see soon enough (February 7th, when Cohen testifies before Congress). It's probably a non-story if Cohen doesn't have any documentation.... but if he does? This is textbook obstruction of justice and subornation of perjury. That opens many possibilities here.

 

[volinbham]

For Buzzfeed's sake, I hope they dotted their i's and crossed their t's on this story.

The source screen better have been set on super high.

Someone asked for evidence Mueller's team was leaking. This either has to be from Team Mueller or from Team Cohen.

From the article it appears the facts reported are from Cohen testimony. Is Cohen a credible source?

 

[volinbham]

We should see soon enough (February 7th, when Cohen testifies before Congress). It's probably a non-story if Cohen doesn't have any documentation.... but if he does? This is textbook obstruction of justice and subornation of perjury. That opens many possibilities here.

But not collusion interestingly enough - no matter so long as Orange Man goes down.

 

[volinbham]

I’m curious who leaked this story to Buzzfeed.

Team Mueller or Team Cohen; latter more likely IMHO.

 

[Stew Cook]

But not collusion interestingly enough - no matter so long as Orange Man goes down.

This is just day to day news.. We'll have troops on the northern border tomorrow, if it helps keep the orange man out of an orange suit.

 

[evillawyer]

Query to the red-hatters: Is suborning purjury sufficient to impeach and convict or just process crime?

 

[volinbham]

This is just day to day news.. We'll have troops on the northern border tomorrow, if it helps keep the orange man out of an orange suit.

Like firing some cruise missiles at AQ ala Wag the Dog?

 

[DC_Vol]

Team Mueller or Team Cohen; latter more likely IMHO.

What if it was neither? I also find it interesting that Buzzfeed has the scoop.

 

[volinbham]

Query to the red-hatters: Is suborning purjury sufficient to impeach and convict or just process crime?

Not a redhat but:

let's see the details. I did not consider perjury itself (Clinton) merited it so I'll wait for the official details.

Do you think Clinton's actual perjury was sufficient to impeach and convict?

 

[Stew Cook]

Like firing some cruise missiles at AQ ala Wag the Dog?

Ya, but I truly hope whatever it is, it doesnt end up hurting anyone.

 

[1972 Grad]

Not a redhat but:

let's see the details. I did not consider perjury itself (Clinton) merited it so I'll wait for the official details.

Do you think Clinton's actual perjury was sufficient to impeach?

No, he is Hillary's husband.

 

[evillawyer]

Not a redhat but:

let's see the details. I did not consider perjury itself (Clinton) merited it so I'll wait for the official details.

Do you think Clinton's actual perjury was sufficient to impeach and convict?

I was too young to have a view on it at the time. From what we know so far, this seems more directly related to the core of the Russia investigation (potential motive for accepting Russian aid--i.e., pursuing a potential business opportunity in Russia) than Lewinsky affair was to Whitewater. Probably not a distinction with a difference legally, but it certainly made a political difference for most people.

 

[volinbham]

Is suborning perjury more serious than committing perjury? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[volinbham]

I was too young to have a view on it at the time. From what we know so far, this seems more directly related to the core of the Russia investigation (potential motive for accepting Russian aid--i.e., pursuing a potential business opportunity in Russia) than Lewinsky affair was to Whitewater. Probably not a distinction with a difference legally, but it certainly made a political difference for most people.

So legally suborning perjury has to be more serious than perjury.

Young or not you now know that Clinton committed perjury - impeach and convict for that?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Someone asked for evidence Mueller's team was leaking. This either has to be from Team Mueller or from Team Cohen.

From the article it appears the facts reported are from Cohen testimony. Is Cohen a credible source?

Audio recordings tend to be credible... and we know that Cohen did surreptitiously record some of his conversations with Trump. We have heard one of them (the conversation where Cohen and Trump discuss how to pay for Karen McDougal's silence via David Pecker of the National Enquirer "... our friend, David").

We will see... but this is getting more and more interesting.

 

[volinbham]

Audio recordings tend to be credible... and we know that Cohen did surreptitiously record some of his conversations with Trump. We have heard one of them (the conversation where Cohen and Trump discuss how to pay for Karen McDougal's silence via David Pecker of the National Enquirer "... our friend, David").

We will see... but this is getting more and more interesting.

The BF article does not indicate this is captured on recordings. It does say Cohen testified to ....

 

[Stew Cook]

Is suborning perjury more serious than committing perjury? Inquiring minds want to know.

Suborning perjury could be worse than perjury, as you are creating a conspiracy in the process. The cover up could be worse than the crime, especially if there was no crime to begin with. Although a cover-up without a crime would be doubly stupid.

 

[volinbham]

Suborning perjury could be worse than perjury, as you are creating a conspiracy in the process. The cover up could be worse than the crime, especially if there was no crime to begin with. Although a cover-up without a crime would be doubly stupid.

does the law see it this way? the hypothetical charge is suborning perjury.

Your thoughts on Clinton? Perjury = impeachment and conviction? I don't even think he should have been impeached for it and glad he wasn't convicted and removed from office for it.