Tucker Carlson Obsession Thread (merged)

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luthervol said:
I've explained it multiple times.
You have yet to explain why an investigative body is required to release all information collected during the investigation.
You have yet to show where Fox requested the video footage and was denied. And if they did, why they were denied.
The investigative body withholding evidence discovered form all media sources is far less damaging than the investigative body releasing evidence discovered to one biased media source.
Release none, release portions, or release it all - just do it equally to all sources.
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For democracy to function, people need access to information. It is on you to defend why this information should be hidden and/or classified. If you can't make that argument, then it needs to be released.

You're the one upset that all media doesn't have this video. You show me where they've been denied. That's not a central part of my argument, it's yours.

You say these three things as if they're all equally desirable. Why would we want none or only portions released? People need access to make informed decisions. If this was a horrific event involving Trump and right wing voters, it seems you would want people to see it. Why are we now pretending no access is a good thing?
 
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utvolpj said:
People went to prison based on the release choices made by this committee. They knowingly withheld video that directly contradicted their court room claims against defendants.

If transparency is valued then a biased committee choosing what to release is the opposite of what should happen.
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People went to prison based on poor choices which they made themselves.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I've already explained that there is nothing wrong with Tucker Carlson's selective release of surveillance video. The problem is that he is using that to frame the entirety of the day as having been a mostly peaceful walk through the Capitol by people who were disappointed that Trump lost the election. That is dishonest.
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Others are using that to frame it as the worst or one of the worst days in American history. Do you take issue with them too or just Tucker?
 
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utvolpj said:
It was already under some control of a biased party. It's just one you agree with
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The distinction is that one is a biased government body and one is a biased media source selected by that biased government body.
 
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Vol8188 said:
For democracy to function, people need access to information. It is on you to defend why this information should be hidden and/or classified. If you can't make that argument, then it needs to be released.

You're the one upset that all media doesn't have this video. You show me where they've been denied. That's not a central part of my argument, it's yours.

You say these three things as if they're all equally desirable. Why would we want none or only portions released? People need access to make informed decisions. If this was a horrific event involving Trump and right wing voters, it seems you would want people to see it. Why are we now pretending no access is a good thing?
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What???????????
They are currently bringing a law suit trying to get the information
 
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luthervol said:
Which is still preferable than selecting a biased media source to exclusively control the info.
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Exclusive control by one biased source is better than control by two biased sources?

That’s your real argument right now?
 
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utvolpj said:
The prosecution's argument was shown to be a lie once more video was released. They knowingly withheld it from the defense. That the way justice should work in the US?
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You will have to be specific in regard to which cases you are speaking of. They are not all the same. .... The guy in Arkansas who was caught with Nancy Pelosi's laptop in his backseat has nobody to blame but himself for why he was convicted of a felony.
 
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luthervol said:
Which is still preferable than selecting a biased media source to exclusively control the info.
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Except you want the govt to control all of it. The difference is one was played for ratings and the other was used to put people in prison. Take a look at which you're supporting
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You will have to be specific in regard to which cases you are speaking of. They are not all the same. .... The guy in Arkansas who was caught with Nancy Pelosi's laptop in his backseat has nobody to blame but himself for why he was convicted of a felony.
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The shaman dude
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You will have to be specific in regard to which cases you are speaking of. They are not all the same. .... The guy in Arkansas who was caught with Nancy Pelosi's laptop in his backseat has nobody to blame but himself for why he was convicted of a felony.
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That was a woman.
 
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utvolpj said:
Except you want the govt to control all of it. The difference is one was played for reasons and the other was used to our people in prison. Take a look at which you're supporting
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I want the government to release all of it.
You may wish to take at look at what you are supporting.
 
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luthervol said:
I want the government to release all of it.
You may wish to take at look at what you are supporting.
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I support it all being released before anyone was out on trial. The people against that are ones you regularly support. Now you're all getting pissy that someone else dared view unapproved video
 
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luthervol said:
The distinction is that one is a biased government body and one is a biased media source selected by that biased government body.
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Lol right. But why is only one of those (control by a biased government body) okay with you?
 
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