Tucker Carlson Obsession Thread (merged)

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BowlBrother85 said:
The conduct of Jacob Chansley at the Capitol on 1/6/21 is very much in dispute.

Posts misrepresent rioter’s actions in Jan. 6 Capitol attack
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Regardless of what punishment he SHOULD get, the very fact that the prosecution didn’t provide the defense will all available evidence means he will most likely walk. You just aren’t allowed to do that as a prosecutor. The one think Info not know is that, since this was a plea deal and not a conviction, of the judge will now allow a trial or dismiss all charges with prejudice
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lol right. But why is only one of those (control by a biased government body) okay with you?
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Who said I was okay with it.
I said it was better than (less horrible than) releasing it to a single biased media source.
 
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Here is your analogy.

It's like if the FBI exclusively released selected information to CNBC, and CNBC went through the information and made public the information of their choosing.

How would that have gone over with you guys?

Would we be better off under that scenario?
 
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luthervol said:
Here is your analogy.

It's like if the FBI exclusively released selected information to CNBC, and CNBC went through the information and made public the information of their choosing.

How would that have gone over with you guys?

Would we be better off under that scenario?
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Except you completely ignore the initial biased release based on politics. Do we now have more or less info than before?
 
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I don't know if this is an analogy that's been applied in here or not (apologies if it has) but we need to address this idea of information and bias.

Our justice system is absolutely and unambiguously predicated on biased and adversarial evidence presented to an audience. (jury) There is no question the prosecution has a goal in how they frame the evidence just as the defense will. The KEY to all this is access to information. If the prosecution does anything to in any way limit evidence that could be in any way exculpatory (Brady material) it's considered a very bad thing.

Upshot is whining about bias isn't nearly as big a deal as disclosure of evidence. Regarding J6 one side absolutely had more access. Bias be damned we the jury need to see the evidence.
 
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utvolpj said:
Except you completely ignore the initial biased release based on politics. Do we now have more or less info than before?
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I didn't complete my analogy.

Here is your analogy.

It's like if the FBI exclusively released selected information on the Hillary e-mail investigation to CNBC, and CNBC went through the information and made public the information of their choosing.

How would that have gone over with you guys?

Would we be better off under that scenario?
 
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GVF said:
Known Antifa members posed as pro-Trump to infiltrate Capitol riot: sources (nypost.com)

Of course, the 1983 leftist bomding successfully carried out by far left loonies trying to kill republican senators wasn't a threat to the nations democracy long before Jan 6. Nor all the attacks on the capital prior to that over the history of the country. But, none of the others were trump supporters, so their causes were just.
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There are a few problems here :

1) The ANTIFA members are not named.

2) You said that they were paid. That article did not say that.

3) The Washington Times was ready to run with a similar report but couldn't verify it. The NY Post article briefly touches on that. Several of these claims have been made, but none of them hold up to scrutiny.
 
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luthervol said:
I didn't complete my analogy.

Here is your analogy.

It's like if the FBI exclusively released selected information on the Hillary e-mail investigation to CNBC, and CNBC went through the information and made public the information of their choosing.

How would that have gone over with you guys?

Would we be better off under that scenario?
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You just described exactly what the j6 committee did. They went through the information and made public the information of their choosing

Anything short of all info from the start makes it a sham.
 
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utvolpj said:
You just described exactly what the j6 committee did. They went through the information and made public the information of their choosing

Anything short of all info from the start makes it a sham.
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My question is.....had the FBI released specific information on the Clinton e-mail investigation exclusively to MSNBC, and MSNBC then released the parts they wanted the public to see, would the public have been better informed (in a better position to assign guilt or innocence)?
 
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luthervol said:
My question is.....had the FBI released specific information on the Clinton e-mail investigation exclusively to MSNBC, and MSNBC then released the parts they wanted the public to see, would the public have been better informed (in a better position to assign guilt or innocence)?
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that would have required the fbi to actually investigate the claims

What was the initial release of info in your hypothetical? That's the only way we can answer
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Open the exhibit video which is attached and watch it. Chansley entered the Capitol through a broken door. He was not allowed to enter as Tucker Carlson claimed.
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Saint Louis protestors entered gated community through broken gate which they were not allowed to enter. They then threatened residents and refused to leave. Guess how many went to jail?
Armed St. Louis protesters broke iron gate, threatened couple before they drew their own guns, attorney says
 
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GVF said:
Known Antifa members posed as pro-Trump to infiltrate Capitol riot: sources (nypost.com)

Of course, the 1983 leftist bomding successfully carried out by far left loonies trying to kill republican senators wasn't a threat to the nations democracy long before Jan 6. Nor all the attacks on the capital prior to that over the history of the country. But, none of the others were trump supporters, so their causes were just.
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Or the Bernie Bro who opened fire on Republican Representatives at baseball practice. AMAZING how fast that dropped out of the news.
Or the Portland Antifa who tired on about 100 nights to burn down a federal courthouse. Just peaceful protestors
 
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utvolpj said:
that would have required the fbi to actually investigate the claims

What was the initial release of info in your hypothetical? That's the only way we can answer
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Whatever came out during the "trial" and/or was reported by the media. What was reported by the media would be the things that they investigated on their own, was released to them by the investigators, or by the investigated.
 
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luthervol said:
Whatever came out during the "trial" and/or was reported by the media. What was reported by the media would be the things that they investigated on their own, was released to them by the investigators, or by the investigated.
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What's your opinion on J6 committee chairman Thompson admitting he did not watch the footage nor was aware of other committee member not watching the footage.?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There are a few problems here :

1) The ANTIFA members are not named.

2) You said that they were paid. That article did not say that.

3) The Washington Times was ready to run with a similar report but couldn't verify it. The NY Post article briefly touches on that. Several of these claims have been made, but none of them hold up to scrutiny.
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They are paid to go everywhere and protest.

I just find it hypocritical how the left makes out this "riot" story when leftist extremists of their own party actually detonated a bomb inside the capitol with full intentions of killing republican law makers. And clinton then commuted one of their sentences in 2001 maybe. I watched over 5 minutes of the video that was released showing this shaman guy walking around the building apparently not being considered a threat, as there were never any visible signs he was under restraint. I get there is probably more footage, and that he may have been asked to leave, but there is also clearly visible footage that he was assisted and accompanied by officers very casually.
 
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