Tucker Carlson Obsession Thread (merged)

what specifics? you or luther can't name one. don't be a dolt
About you specifically? Sure I can. That's easy. Political discourse, and the ability to have it with those with opposing views, is in the trash. Massive problem. Everyone is overly entrenched and committed to name calling and refusal to listen. I myself can be guilty of it. You are so bad you are on your third username that I know of.
 
About you specifically? Sure I can. That's easy. Political discourse, and the ability to have it with those with opposing views, is in the trash. Massive problem. Everyone is overly entrenched and committed to name calling and refusal to listen. I myself can be guilty of it. You are so bad you are on your third username that I know of.

lol, so you can't provide any specifics of the right destroying or taking away freedoms.
 
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lol, so you can't provide any specifics of the right destroying or taking away freedoms.
Sure I can yet again. DeSantis book banning party. Trump trotting Fauci out everyday who was preaching shutdowns. Trump bashing GA governor for opening up. Trump admin stopping the end of private prisons. Federal death penalty brought back. Trump admin stating that they would change the rules on citizenship status of children of government employees working overseas. Every single debt ceiling he signed off on. Oh and the ultimate his damn spending.

And Luther wasn't part of the conversation I saw on this topic. But I could have missed it.

Edit: and the most obvious one the damn Patriot Act
 
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They can already do that. Which is why it absolutely implies criticism to say they should be able to do more.

I see your disagreement. In the first instance, I'm referring to conservatives - persons or groups - doing more often what they can already do, suing for defamation if a cease/desist/retract doesn't work.

In the second instance, I'm referring to revoking absolute privilege; Public Officials in Defamation Claims I don't think politicians should be able to maliciously defame citizens or other politicians. If that impedes their ability to fulfill their duties, a lawsuit or two might provoke responsible speech from the governing. They may still criticize all they want.

I extend that to media. Example, when a person says 'good people on both sides, (referring to the debate over Confederate monuments) but not the white supremacists who should be totally condemned' and media perpetrates a willful distortion by culling the exculpatory words. One can criticize - "well, I want him to say it a hundred times because I won't get it the first 99" or "I think his actions are fascist" but cannot willfully defame.

Likewise, a politician should be subject to suit when they inflict a hoax on the nation by creating a conspiracy to defame another candidate and perpetuate fraud on the public. Nor should those DOJ/FBI bureaucrats who lied to courts and collaborated to remove a president and then prevent his re-election, be allowed to walk away. Nor is it legitimate or legal governance to outsource that which is not constitutionally permitted it, such as the DOJ/FBI using and coercing media companies to perform its desired censorship.
 
AOC Revels in Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News: ‘Deplatforming Works and It Is Important’

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), a representative of the U.S. government, cheered the “deplatforming” of conservative media figure Tucker Carlson, saying that “deplatforming works” and “is important.”

“Deplatforming works, and it is important and there you go. Good things can happen,” she said in a video on her Instagram account, after news broke that Tucker Carlson was out at Fox News.

She also claimed Tucker was responsible for death threats to her office and “plenty of people across the country,” saying:
I think he has a defamation suit unless she can prove Tucker was responsible for the death threats.
 
You dont think China is a real boogeyman? They make Putin look like a child.

No it's Russia. They have been keeping that going since Clinton's reset failure and Obama caught on a hot mic telling Medvedev he'd have more flexibility after the election. It's the great misdirection again even though Ukraine/Russia is currently in conflict.

They don't want to publicly admit China is the greater and greatest threat because they will have to do something. There are no votes in that space with their base. But the fake Russia and Trump angle. Now that still has some utility.
 
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I see your disagreement. In the first instance, I'm referring to conservatives - persons or groups - doing more often what they can already do, suing for defamation if a cease/desist/retract doesn't work.

In the second instance, I'm referring to revoking absolute privilege; Public Officials in Defamation Claims I don't think politicians should be able to maliciously defame citizens or other politicians. If that impedes their ability to fulfill their duties, a lawsuit or two might provoke responsible speech from the governing. They may still criticize all they want.

I extend that to media. Example, when a person says 'good people on both sides, (referring to the debate over Confederate monuments) but not the white supremacists who should be totally condemned' and media perpetrates a willful distortion by culling the exculpatory words. One can criticize - "well, I want him to say it a hundred times because I won't get it the first 99" or "I think his actions are fascist" but cannot willfully defame.

Likewise, a politician should be subject to suit when they inflict a hoax on the nation by creating a conspiracy to defame another candidate and perpetuate fraud on the public. Nor should those DOJ/FBI bureaucrats who lied to courts and collaborated to remove a president and then prevent his re-election, be allowed to walk away. Nor is it legitimate or legal governance to outsource that which is not constitutionally permitted it, such as the DOJ/FBI using and coercing media companies to perform its desired censorship.
Those rules work that way for a reason.

Your post history says that Joe Biden has always been an idiot and has on again/off again lucidity. So do you want a system in which Biden can sue you and take that through the full panoply of litigation, all the way to a jury, to determine whether it was technically true or not?
 
No it's Russia. They have been keeping that going since Clinton's reset failure and Obama caught on a hot mic telling Medvedev he'd have more flexibility after the election. It's the great misdirection again even though Ukraine/Russia is currently in conflict.

They don't want to publicly admit China is the greater and greatest threat because they will have to do something. There are no votes in that space with their base. But the fake Russia and Trump angle. Now that still has some utility.
There is no denying Russia's affection for Tucker Carlson ... and it's weird as hell.

Can you think of a liberal media personality who is similarly, and so publicly, adored by a foreign government?

Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, is publicly begging Tucker Carlson to come work for the Russian state-run media network, known as "Russia Today" or just "RT." I'm not making this up, and it's not a figment of anyone's imagination either.

See the 10 links in post #4.055 of this thread.

It's bizarre for a foreign minister, who works under an authoritarian ruler, to publicly display such an affinity for an American media personality.
 
As a contrast to Tucker Carlson's relationship with Sergei Lavrov ...

During World War II, Germany's Propaganda Minister, Josef Goebbels, was offering to pay bounties for the assassination of CBS reporter, Edward R. Murrow .... because Murrow reported that German Jews, who had fought for Germany in World War I were among those being sent to extermination camps to be gassed. Hitler had previously lied to the German people and said that Germany's WW I vets would not be among those executed as part of "The Final Solution." This revelation caused outrage among the German people.

Lavrov wants to give Tucker Carlson a freakin' job. LOL.
 
There is no denying Russia's affection for Tucker Carlson ... and it's weird as hell.

Can you think of a liberal media personality who is similarly, and so publicly, adored by a foreign government?

Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, is publicly begging Tucker Carlson to come work for the Russian state-run media network, known as "Russia Today" or just "RT." I'm not making this up, and it's not a figment of anyone's imagination either.

See the 10 links in post #4.055 of this thread.

It's bizarre for a foreign minister, who works under an authoritarian ruler, to publicly display such an affinity for an American media personality.


Even more concerning is that you think you're making a valid point about something nefarious. It's elementary to learn to understand correlations vs a set of facts that have no relationship yet difficult to many like understanding when to use effect vs affect in a sentence.
 
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Even more concerning is that you think you're making a valid point about something nefarious.
Clearly, the Russian government regards Tucker Carlson as an asset.

"Nefarious" may not be the right word, but it's bizarre and unprecedented for an American media personality to be the subject of such adoration from an authoritarian regime, which is an adversary to the United States.
 
Clearly, the Russian government regards Tucker Carlson as an asset.

"Nefarious" may not be the right word, but it's bizarre and unprecedented for an American media personality to be the subject of such adoration from an authoritarian regime, which is an adversary to the United States.
10 left leaning articles about Tucker would be adoration. You posting them is infatuation. Russians have made a mockery of the left by saying things to excite the liberal base for moments like these.
 
10 left leaning articles about Tucker would be adoration. You posting them is infatuation. Russians have made a mockery of the left by saying things to excite the liberal base for moments like these.
Russians have made a mockery of journalism at Fox News, by expressing such an undying love and support for a (former) Fox News opinion show host.

The links which I have posted are relevant to the topic of this thread. If you don't want to discuss Tucker Carlson? You should click on a different thread.
 
Russians have made a mockery of journalism at Fox News, by expressing such an undying love and support for a (former) Fox News opinion show host.

The links which I have posted are relevant to the topic of this thread. If you don't want to discuss Tucker Carlson? You should click on a different thread.
Relevant to liberals who need Russia to put out distractions to get excited about. I’m discussing Tucker by stating the mockery a Russian has made of you chasing the carrot.
 
Relevant to liberals who need Russia to put out distractions to get excited about. I’m discussing Tucker by stating the mockery a Russian has made of you chasing the carrot.
Like all good dems, he's obsessed with Russia Russia Russia. I remember not too long ago in a Presidential debate, one of the candidates saying: The 80's called they want their foreign policy back
 
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Relevant to liberals who need Russia to put out distractions to get excited about. I’m discussing Tucker by stating the mockery a Russian has made of you chasing the carrot.
Here was Tucker Carlson getting fooled by fake Russian propaganda last week. This happened A LOT with Tucker, by the way ... Tucker Carlson was so anxious to report that Russia was winning the war in the Ukraine, that he would never fact-check his sources for authenticity. He did unprofessional crap like this all the time. No wonder the Kremlin loves him so much.

Tucker Carlson Duped By Fake Russian Propaganda Docs on Ukraine War
 
Those rules work that way for a reason.

Your post history says that Joe Biden has always been an idiot and has on again/off again lucidity. So do you want a system in which Biden can sue you and take that through the full panoply of litigation, all the way to a jury, to determine whether it was technically true or not?

And I understand the argument against it, even making the argument as you did in another post that liberty is not all upside.

No, of course not but I don't see that as analogous to the specific instances of defamation and fraud I referred to. Are you equating my terming or inferring Biden is an idiot with the very specific examples I gave, or you think it is an untenable proposition with potential risks outweighing the rewards? Do you not distinguish between a deliberately malicious mischaracterization with the recognized right to petition government, which includes criticism of it?

And I think Congress should live by its own defamation laws without the safe harbor of absolute privilege.
 
Here was Tucker Carlson getting fooled by fake Russian propaganda last week. This happened A LOT with Tucker, by the way ... Tucker Carlson was so anxious to report that Russia was winning the war in the Ukraine, that he would never fact-check his sources for authenticity. He did unprofessional crap like this all the time. No wonder the Kremlin loves him so much.

Tucker Carlson Duped By Fake Russian Propaganda Docs on Ukraine War
Here’s you posting another left leaning article about Tucker. Kremlin loves you!
 
Surprise! Tucker Carlson Draws the Most Democratic Viewers in Key Demo, Even Topping Rachel Maddow
Huh, who knew Democrats & Indies were such Russia lovers.

"The Nielsen MRI Fusion numbers reveal that in October, Fox News unsurprisingly got the majority of the audience of self-proclaimed Republicans, with 69% of them overall tuning into total-day programming and 73% of them in the demo tuning into primetime programming. CNN and MSNBC split the remaining conservatives with totals in the low double-digit percentages. Fox News also commanded the largest number of independents in the key news demo during primetime and total-day hours: 55% of those 25-54 watched the network in primetime, compared to CNN’s 23% and MSNBC’s 22%. During total-day hours, 58% of independents in the demo watch Fox News, 18% chose MSNBC and 25% selected CNN.

More surprising are the stats about Carlson and Fox News’ pull with self-proclaimed Democrats. Of those demo-aged viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% chose Fox News, 31% chose MSNBC and 30% chose CNN for programming from 8 p.m. ET to 11 p.m. ET. In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33% and MSNBC got 25%.

Carlson was top among Democrats in the demo across all of cable news that month and ranked third place among Dems in total viewership, too. Of the top four programs among Democrats in total viewers, Fox News had three: “The Five,” “Tucker Carlson Tonight” and “Hannity.” The top spot in total viewers went to MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show.”

These numbers only account for October but reveal that Fox News’ and Carlson’s sizable audiences are not that easy to define. Consider Carlson’s ratings that month. In October, Carlson’s show was the top-rated program in the demo across all of cable news and was the second highest-rated show overall, coming in only behind Fox News’ late-afternoon panel show “The Five.” In total average viewers, he netted 3.081 million viewers and in the demo, he secured 483,000. For the entire year of 2021, “Tucker Carlson Tonight” was the highest-rated program in cable news overall, bringing in an average of 3.214 million total viewers with 535,000 in the demo."
 
Here’s you posting another left leaning article about Tucker. Kremlin loves you!
This isn't a liberal slant. The Kremlin loves Tucker Carlson and it's easy to see why. He recites Russian propaganda, which is easily de-bunked. I used to say that Tucker Carlson only cared about Nielsen rating and stock prices ... but I left something out. Tucker Carlson also loves Russia ... and it's mutual. It's one big love affair!
 

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