Turns out, slavery is good ... for the slaves

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RikidyBones said:
Since 2000 (I'm not doing 40, you can if you want)
MLB - 15 different teams
NFL - 13 different teams
NHL - 13 different teams
NBA - 11 different teams - Cavs aren't there without LeBron coming back.

So they have the worst parity in professional sports.

Didn't realize how dominant Lakers have been in that stretch. Six of the NBA championships have been LA. That's 1 team with 25%. GS and LA account for 40%. Wow.
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That's relying too much on the past. There is a ton of parity now, if that's what you care about..

Mavs
Heat
Heat
Spurs
Warriors
Cavs
Warriors
Warriors
Raptors
Lakers
Bucks
Warriors
Nuggets

5 different champs in the last 5 years. 9 different champs in 13 years, and we saw the greatest team of all time during that stretch hoarding 4 of the titles. Player movement has been good for parity, and that's not what people expected.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That mid 90s lineup of Shaq, Penny, Anderson, Scott and Grant was pretty stout.
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It is a great 5 but their problem is their best 2 players were young and needed more battle testing. The other problem was their bench was absolute trash.

Edit: and worst of all, Horace Grant got hurt and didn't play in the Bulls series.
 
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RikidyBones said:
Lol NBA has the worst parity of the major professional sports leagues. It gets worse the further you go back. Funny that you picked the 2000 post to comment on rather than the 1980, as you originally requested. 🙃

Point being, the Orlando magic are at a disadvantage for being a small market team. It's been a topic for decades.
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Orlando is the one small market that never seemed to have that disadvantage. They attracted Grant Hill, Tracy McGrady, and then Tim Duncan was a c-hair away from signing there, too. Almost nobody gets players like that. The problem is they're so inept they can't get people to stay.

They fumbled the Shaq thing so badly. They betrayed Dwight Howard by telling SVG he wanted him fired. D12 was blindsided by SVG in front of a camera crew as he confronted him about it. All trust was lost and D12 was out. How they handled the Banchero pick was a total head scratcher. I liked the pick, but they did it all weird. They've just been a bad organization, but they have some good young players right now.
 
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RikidyBones said:
Due to a generational draft pick in shaq and whatever we want to consider Dwight. Both went to LA 😭. Sucks to be a magic fan.
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Shaq was about the Magic being cheap.

Howard was about the Magic betraying him (as I explained a minute ago).

Both cases are on management

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Also, the 2009 Magic team starred Rashard Lewis, who was a big FA get.

Again, Orlando is not in the same boat as other small market teams.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Shaq was about the Magic being cheap.

Howard was about the Magic betraying him (as I explained a minute ago).

Both cases are on management

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You're misremembering the dwight issue. Dwight requested a trade to a big market. He wanted out.

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The svg stuff happened after the trade request and when the last ditch effort to keep him failed.
 
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EasternVol said:
Well Libya was doing pretty well until Barry and Hillary put an end to it, but I digress.
Is the black population in the US thriving? Quality of life metrics there are bad: crime, health, housing, single parent households, etc.
It's not like if you're born in the US life is great and if you're born in Africa life is awful. There's squalor here too, and there are nice areas there. There are opportunities and obstacles, and people can make good lives, in both places.
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Their per capita gdp was about 12,000 before. What metric could you possibly be using to claim Libya was doing well
 
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Vol8188 said:
Their per capita gdp was about 12,000 before. What metric could you possibly be using to claim Libya was doing well
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Superficial analysis and bad conclusion. I'm shocked. How did their GPDPC compared to their neighbors, in PPP, and what benefits did the government provide to the people?
 
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EasternVol said:
Superficial analysis and bad conclusion. I'm shocked. How did their GPDPC compared to their neighbors, in PPP, and what benefits did the government provide to the people?
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So they’re poor but their neighbors are more poor so they’re doing well?

Please feel free to tell me about all these wonderful benefits they were given
 
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Vol8188 said:
So they’re poor but their neighbors are more poor so they’re doing well?

Please feel free to tell me about all these wonderful benefits they were given
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That's an ignorant approach but it's not unexpected. PPP GDPPC was around $30K, which isn't bad at all especially for that part of the world. Free health care and public education including college are pretty good benefits.
 
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EasternVol said:
That's an ignorant approach but it's not unexpected. PPP GDPPC was around $30K, which isn't bad at all especially for that part of the world. Free health care and public education including college are pretty good benefits.
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What’s your source on that? I’m seeing 14-15k

If you give people free health care in a country with a gdp of almost nothing, I’ve got a lot of questions about the quality of that care.
Libya GDP Per Capita (PPP) 2004 - 2024
 
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EasternVol said:
That's an ignorant approach but it's not unexpected. PPP GDPPC was around $30K, which isn't bad at all especially for that part of the world. Free health care and public education including college are pretty good benefits.
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Yeah I'll bet that health care is awesome
 
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