'20 TX RB Zachary Evans

I don't understand why people are trying to make this kid out to be some diva thug cause he wouldn't give a coach his cell phone... he's extremely talented, had a HS Coach with Napoleon syndrome, and I wish him the best wherever he goes...

It's childish and petty to cut kids down and label them for refusing to comply to ridiculous demands... certainly not the face forward our fan base should be projecting

... I'd also take that bet @VolFreakJosh with -insert whatever school he picks that isn't UTK-

Merry Christmas
 
I don't understand why people are trying to make this kid out to be some diva thug cause he wouldn't give a coach his cell phone... he's extremely talented, had a HS Coach with Napoleon syndrome, and I wish him the best wherever he goes...

It's childish and petty to cut kids down and label them for refusing to comply to ridiculous demands... certainly not the face forward our fan base should be projecting

... I'd also take that bet @VolFreakJosh with -insert whatever school he picks that isn't UTK-

Merry Christmas
Kids that rebel in the small request will do so in the bigger ones. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous this request may seem. The coach wanted a focused team and he chose not to be part of that.
Good luck being a head case somewhere else
 
Kids that rebel in the small request will do so in the bigger ones. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous this request may seem. The coach wanted a focused team and he chose not to be part of that.
Good luck being a head case somewhere else
You're right... we should only recruit sheep that do exactly as they're told no matter the circumstance :rolleyes:

Everybody else is a head case
 
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Kids that rebel in the small request will do so in the bigger ones. It doesn’t matter how ridiculous this request may seem. The coach wanted a focused team and he chose not to be part of that.
Good luck being a head case somewhere else
Good luck with that one size fits all philosophy.
 
Quite the opposite actually.
My business thrives in an industry that is very competitive.

there are plenty of good athletes (employees in my case) to choose from. No need to bring in someone who can’t be part of the team. And why waste the extra time managing this headache when you don’t have too.

As a coach you should pass on the attitude problems every chance you can
 
Quite the opposite actually.
My business thrives in an industry that is very competitive.

there are plenty of good athletes (employees in my case) to choose from. No need to bring in someone who can’t be part of the team. And why waste the extra time managing this headache when you don’t have too.

As a coach you should pass on the attitude problems every chance you can

Every team has 85 scholarships and i promise you more than half are guys with chips and attitudes. Don't know your business but 100% of businesses have attitudes filled throughout them. I run two and have yet to see a attitudeless day and that includes myself
 
Every team has 85 scholarships and i promise you more than half are guys with chips and attitudes. Don't know your business but 100% of businesses have attitudes filled throughout them. I run two and have yet to see a attitudeless day and that includes myself

You can minimize your problem in the selection process. I know people that think CJZ should have worked with Murphy but I agree with showing him the door. The coaches time is limited so why waste it.
We can just disagree on this.
 
Quite the opposite actually.
My business thrives in an industry that is very competitive.

there are plenty of good athletes (employees in my case) to choose from. No need to bring in someone who can’t be part of the team. And why waste the extra time managing this headache when you don’t have too.

As a coach you should pass on the attitude problems every chance you can
Is this what your job postings look like?:

1) Must be a highly competitive, SEC Division I level alpha male athlete
2) Must have a winning mentality and fight for every blade of grass on the field
3) Must be willing to Give Your All for Tennessee, every week of the year, on and off the field
4) Must meet academic standards to minimally qualify for the University
5) Leadership qualities preferred and encouraged
6) See individual job descriptions for other desired attributes to be taken into consideration

At your company, you're looking for an entirely different skill set and employee than our football team is... I see what you're saying, it's not entirely without merit..... but it's a really poor analogy IMO
 
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Quite the opposite actually.
My business thrives in an industry that is very competitive.

there are plenty of good athletes (employees in my case) to choose from. No need to bring in someone who can’t be part of the team. And why waste the extra time managing this headache when you don’t have too.

As a coach you should pass on the attitude problems every chance you can
I would like this post about 100 times if I could.

Not too long ago I had an employee with very good experience and skill. He had a cancerous attitude, was dishonest, and undercut coworkers to advance his personal agenda. I had people tell me that our business would actually collapse without him. We counseled him. Counseled him again. Then shocked him and pretty much everyone else when I made the decision to let him go.

The team got stronger in very short order. The other guys were motivated by the move. They stepped up and blossomed in ways no one thought they could.

A talented guy with a cancerous attitude is ALWAYS bad for a team. The more talent usually the more destructive.
 
Quite the opposite actually.
My business thrives in an industry that is very competitive.

there are plenty of good athletes (employees in my case) to choose from. No need to bring in someone who can’t be part of the team. And why waste the extra time managing this headache when you don’t have too.

As a coach you should pass on the attitude problems every chance you can
As a boss or coach it’s your job to bring in the best talent available and then get the most out of them. A good coach or boss knows how to get the most out of their employees or players, even if that means working around attitudes. Though, this analogy doesn’t really work since it’s acting like 17-18 year old kids have the same maturity of adults. Every team has brought these type of kids in. Bryce Thompson had more baggage than Evans and Pruitt didn’t seem to care. If someone is truly elite, like a 5* talent, your bring them in and have your coaches do what they’re paid to do.
 
I would like this post about 100 times if I could.

Not too long ago I had an employee with very good experience and skill. He had a cancerous attitude, was dishonest, and undercut coworkers to advance his personal agenda. I had people tell me that our business would actually collapse without him. We counseled him. Counseled him again. Then shocked him and pretty much everyone else when I made the decision to let him go.

The team got stronger in very short order. The other guys were motivated by the move. They stepped up and blossomed in ways no one thought they could.

A talented guy with a cancerous attitude is ALWAYS bad for a team. The more talent usually the more destructive.
Granted... cell phones are debatably proven to cause cancer in ancillary biased studies...

...other than that, there's zero ties to not giving a cell phone to a coach being a diagnosis for "cancerous attitude"

I agree with what the filament of you're saying... same reason TO never won a Super Bowl... I strongly disagree on the diagnosis of this kid as a cancerous personality based on him rejecting a ridiculous demand from a coach with good reason... the situation was dumb, and marking a teenager as a diva/thug/cancerous attitude/whatever negative thing you come up over this incident is presumptive at best and a judging stone as stereotypical of our fan base at worst...

Put your pitchforks and torches away for things that aren't a big deal, our player or not... these are HS kids, and if that was my HS kid I'd have had some words to say to his coach if he took his phone away and I wanted to give him an update on his grandma and couldn't get ahold of him

Furthermore... if this is the type of thing he suspends players for, the previous suspension is probably more of the same "I want to establish dominance over this 5* recruit" BS... not buying it... that coach seems like a problem
 
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I strongly disagree on the diagnosis of this kid as a cancerous personality based on him rejecting a ridiculous demand from a coach with good reason...
Without knowing the exact inside details of this kid's situation... I can't say for sure if he'd be a problem or not. A public dispute with a coach though... isn't a good sign even if you think the coach was wrong.

Leaders make mistakes. If you don't have a level of tolerance as a team member that allows for a boss to be the boss even when you disagree with him... you aren't good for the team.

I came to a realization several years ago about myself. I was hurting myself, my boss, and my team by silently disagreeing with decisions then not giving my all to make plans successful. I was killing my own motivation. The one thing a boss has to have for me to work for them now is the willingness to "hear me". If he/she lets me state my case... I'll pour everything I have into getting my team and myself in support of a plan even if I don't think it is a great one.

There comes a time when a team depends on a level of trust in the leader... that you go with them.
 
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As a boss or coach it’s your job to bring in the best talent available and then get the most out of them. A good coach or boss knows how to get the most out of their employees or players, even if that means working around attitudes. Though, this analogy doesn’t really work since it’s acting like 17-18 year old kids have the same maturity of adults. Every team has brought these type of kids in. Bryce Thompson had more baggage than Evans and Pruitt didn’t seem to care. If someone is truly elite, like a 5* talent, your bring them in and have your coaches do what they’re paid to do.
Nope. Sometimes it means attempting to reshape attitudes. You never want to "work around" an attitude. The problems NEVER go away they just fester and become bigger.

I suspect Pruitt dealt with BT's attitude directly. A good leader will always lay out the expectations when they give someone a "second chance".
 
I’m not criticizing the coach but someone provide the logic on why the players would not be allowed to keep their phones with them ?
Eliminate distractions. Prevent accidental gameplan leaks. Prevent media access. Keep girlfriends and other personal drama away. Push the players to relate to each other. Prevent bulletin board material on social media. Keep any problems internal. Keep kids from reading comments that could make them over/under confident.

I do not know if it is a good policy or not. But it isn't heinous or a gross violation of "rights" to demand a member of a team give up the use of their phone for a night.
 
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Eliminate distractions. Prevent accidental gameplan leaks. Prevent media access. Keep girlfriends and other personal drama away. Push the players to relate to each other. Prevent bulletin board material on social media. Keep any problems internal. Keep kids from reading comments that could make them over/under confident.

I do not know if it is a good policy or not. But it isn't heinous or a gross violation of "rights" to demand a member of a team give up the use of their phone for a night.
I just don’t think a coach can pull that off now with the way smart phones are used in today’s society. Plus you cannot dominate an individuals private time like you have described above.
 
I don't understand why people are trying to make this kid out to be some diva thug cause he wouldn't give a coach his cell phone... he's extremely talented, had a HS Coach with Napoleon syndrome, and I wish him the best wherever he goes...

It's childish and petty to cut kids down and label them for refusing to comply to ridiculous demands... certainly not the face forward our fan base should be projecting

... I'd also take that bet @VolFreakJosh with -insert whatever school he picks that isn't UTK-

Merry Christmas

Him taking a swing at a coach been rumored as well.
 
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I don't understand why people are trying to make this kid out to be some diva thug cause he wouldn't give a coach his cell phone... he's extremely talented, had a HS Coach with Napoleon syndrome, and I wish him the best wherever he goes...

It's childish and petty to cut kids down and label them for refusing to comply to ridiculous demands... certainly not the face forward our fan base should be projecting

... I'd also take that bet @VolFreakJosh with -insert whatever school he picks that isn't UTK-

Merry Christmas
Don't think for a second Coach Pruitt wouldn't give him a chance. Kid will be a baller wherever he ends up, LSU is my guess?
 

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