U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

Does the .gov have Alien tech?

  • Yes

    Votes: 42 30.9%

  • No

    Votes: 35 25.7%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 19 14.0%

  • It's Trumps Fault

    Votes: 19 14.0%

  • Yes, but also....Pie

    Votes: 10 7.4%

  • No, but also... Pie

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • Total voters
    136
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LouderVol said:
the easiest things were the propulsion system and the circuitry on a hyper advanced alien craft?

I would assume the material sciences, like any new compounds, alloys, fuels, but also physical structures, bonding processes.

then I would assume any mechanical systems, even in the digital age you still have to "engineer" those materials into useful forms and they have to have the ability to move. something from one place into another.

I could see circuity coming after that. but that should come with any number of other advancements that comes from understanding how their technology works. communication devices, detection devices, internal wiring or wireless systems. you would also probably have some advanced type of crew/ship interaction especially if they were traveling near light speed.

propulsion would come pretty much near the end except for any shields/warp technology, the type of things truly outside our understanding of science.

we haven't seen any of that. or at the very least if we have the entire world is in on the bit too.
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Sound logic as usual.

Honestly, if we have recovered alien craft, as a good chunk of folks say we have, it may be so far beyond our current tech and understanding of science/the universe around us that even the best and brightest among us cannot fathom why or how it functions. Like if your dog looks under the hood of your car. Your dog doesnt even know what a hood is...or that theres a latch both inside and outside your vehicle that have to be used before the hood can even open. He doesnt know what a latch is, either. He doesnt have fingers to push the button inside, or unlatch the hood before he raises it...BUT if somehow by sheer luck and time spent he does eventually get the hood popped open on your car...eventually. Then what? He doesn't have any idea what the Hell he is looking at in the engine bay. Doesnt even know what the different parts ARE. Much less what they actually DO. (Most people dont either btw) Most of whats under the hood these days is covered by plastic panels too...such that you cant even see much of whats under the hood without having the correct tools to remove the plastic panels first...and remember we are a dog. Reverse engineering? It will be a miracle if we get these plastic panels off this century.

Forget about starting to remove parts from the engine etc in hopes of seeing how and what they actually do. Forget about ever having the correct tools, materials or capability to produce them. Forget about ever learning to "code" or program all of the many parts of this vehicle that are controlled by computers. Forget about the fact that there are thousands of different parts and fasteners in this amazing machine known as a car...and that installing just 1 of them wrong, or blowing a fuse we have no way to replace, or making a hundred other mistakes along the way will render this vehicle dead and it will never start again without help from a real mechanic. Forget about any of those myriad pitfalls...we are a dog. We are hungry and its getting close to nap time again. This car isn't ever gonna give up its amazing technology to a dog, and we wouldn't understand it even if a mechanic stopped by to try. Lmao. So this alien craft that likely approaches the speed of light when used correctly might as well be a boulder or giant paper weight.
 
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LouderVol said:
the easiest things were the propulsion system and the circuitry on a hyper advanced alien craft?

I would assume the material sciences, like any new compounds, alloys, fuels, but also physical structures, bonding processes.

then I would assume any mechanical systems, even in the digital age you still have to "engineer" those materials into useful forms and they have to have the ability to move. something from one place into another.

I could see circuity coming after that. but that should come with any number of other advancements that comes from understanding how their technology works. communication devices, detection devices, internal wiring or wireless systems. you would also probably have some advanced type of crew/ship interaction especially if they were traveling near light speed.

propulsion would come pretty much near the end except for any shields/warp technology, the type of things truly outside our understanding of science.

we haven't seen any of that. or at the very least if we have the entire world is in on the bit too.
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As I recall in my readings more than 1.5 decades ago, the propulsion systems were/are a problem. Mainly because the material required, don't exist on our periodic table. Whether it appears naturally off world or is created by aliens was discussed, but I never read what was determined on that. I do know the new excitement is using A.I. to assist in this endeavor through our big tech institutions like MIT, Polytech etc. Now, once again, you have had your say, I have had mine. Clearly NOTHING I say will alter your perception. NOTHING you say will alter mine. But if you want to continue to nitpick, trade insults, whine, or whatever. Proceed. That goes for you and your MAGA buds twisting topics and comments into detouring statements that divert from what was actually said into the usual realm of lies.
 
#1,156
#1,156
marcusluvsvols said:
Sound logic as usual.

Honestly, if we have recovered alien craft, as a good chunk of folks say we have, it may be so far beyond our current tech and understanding of science/the universe around us that even the best and brightest among us cannot fathom why or how it functions. Like if your dog looks under the hood of your car. Your dog doesnt even know what a hood is...or that theres a latch both inside and outside your vehicle that have to be used before the hood can even open. He doesnt know what a latch is, either. He doesnt have fingers to push the button inside, or unlatch the hood before he raises it...BUT if somehow by sheer luck and time spent he does eventually get the hood popped open on your car...eventually. Then what? He doesn't have any idea what the Hell he is looking at in the engine bay. Doesnt even know what the different parts ARE. Much less what they actually DO. (Most people dont either btw) Most of whats under the hood these days is covered by plastic panels too...such that you cant even see much of whats under the hood without having the correct tools to remove the plastic panels first...and remember we are a dog. Reverse engineering? It will be a miracle if we get these plastic panels off this century.

Forget about starting to remove parts from the engine etc in hopes of seeing how and what they actually do. Forget about ever having the correct tools, materials or capability to produce them. Forget about ever learning to "code" or program all of the many parts of this vehicle that are controlled by computers. Forget about the fact that there are thousands of different parts and fasteners in this amazing machine known as a car...and that installing just 1 of them wrong, or blowing a fuse we have no way to replace, or making a hundred other mistakes along the way will render this vehicle dead and it will never start again without help from a real mechanic. Forget about any of those myriad pitfalls...we are a dog. We are hungry and its getting close to nap time again. This car isn't ever gonna give up its amazing technology to a dog, and we wouldn't understand it even if a mechanic stopped by to try. Lmao. So this alien craft that likely approaches the speed of light when used correctly might as well be a boulder or giant paper weight.
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I don't take exception to the military having a craft they are trying to reverse engineer. especially with some of the DARPA types. Or whatever the Spooky Works or whatever that one group is called.

What I do find implausible is that that technology has trickled down to the commercial realm, and is available the world over.

that technology and break thrus would be hoarded like crazy.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
unexplained flying objects from Iran mothership.....

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TVOLS said:
You say things that dramatic it doesn't just go away. speaking of video
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My brother-in-law is in the computer science field. He's lived in the Baltimore/D.C. area and been a government private contractor the past 20 odd years.

I brought up all the drone shows we're starting to see coming out of east Asia and asked how long he thought it would be before laser light and fireworks shows got replaced at stadium events here. He told me we're still a ways off from them being equitable and that the ones, from Asia, we're seeing videos of are state sponsored.

I can't see Iran breaking the piggybank for anything aside from advancing their nuclear program, but is a show of force from a state actor actually a plausible explanation? As @marcusluvsvols mentioned earlier, 'mothership + propulsion in getting from there to here', requires magnitudes more technological advancement than short flight maneuverability.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't take exception to the military having a craft they are trying to reverse engineer. especially with some of the DARPA types. Or whatever the Spooky Works or whatever that one group is called.

What I do find implausible is that that technology has trickled down to the commercial realm, and is available the world over.

that technology and break thrus would be hoarded like crazy.
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Good posts in this thread. Thanks. I don't block imbeciles because I don't want to risk missing gems like your replies.

Jet propulsion has been commercially available around 70 odd years now. Shouldn't we have already had an advancement? Considering our DOD budgets and the Pentagon's yearly audit failures, I find it more plausible the government has sat on 2nd or 3rd generation advanced technology we've developed, than having allowed alien technology to trickle out.

Our MIC could know exactly what is going on with what we perceive as unexplained phenomena. They could very well just regard our civilian confusion as inconsequential in lieu of outside actors tipping their hands.
 
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Orangeburst said:
balloons and now drones..Jan 20 cant get here fast enough.
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What really pisses me off about those high altitude large balloons released by China is that the Biden government played dumb. Acted like they didn't know what was going on to the American people. The intelligence community and Armed Forces leadership at a minimum knew exactly what was going on:

China was testing the Gulf Stream/wind patterns AND our defenses to determine where to release those balloons to have them fly directly over the mainland US. They (and we) know that a balloon with an EMP device or nuclear weapon optimized for maximum EMP is detonated at high altitude over the US would knock this country back to 1850 in an instant. Everything with a circuit board or chip fried in an instant. Banking collapses, cars made after fuel injection introduced wont run, the electrical grid is fried, nuclear power plants go critical and melt down within 72 hours, catastrophic damage that would take at least a decade just to restore electricity. No running water either because thats all computer controlled as well. Completely cripple our country in 1 shot. China tested their balloon program to see how they worked and behaved in the Gulf Stream knowing that Biden would do absolutely nothing about it. That was an act of war and should have been met with a strong rebuke such as tarriffs, sanctions, something. Biden had some clueless diplomat send them a strongly worded letter instead. By the way, the Russians currently have a nuclear device we believe to be optimized for EMP in orbit on a satellite...for the exact same reason. We arent happy about that, and I would be surprised if we haven't countered and had Elon put a couple devices in orbit for ourselves, set to travel over both China AND Russia. If we havent yet, Trump needs to make that happen ASAP.

Want to hear an expert discuss how vulnerable we are to an EMP attack, check this out. Shawn Ryan is a former SEAL and has 1 of the best and most listened/watched podcasts on Earth.

 
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VOLLeeann said:
In one sense, it doesn't matter if it is USG, or the Chinese or ET. It makes us think about things that do not have an earthly origin.
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I have to say if there was a psyop against us by our own .gov during this UAP disclosure this would have to be one. I have no idea how else you explain the incompetence we are witnessing by our own government.
 
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#1,168
Cod said:
We have an incompetent administration and an incompetent military….. thank you those who voted for this **** show almost 4 years ago.
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We wasted our military for the past 2 decades and you're confused why it would be in shambles? The shitshow is from those who believe it should be lent out to the highest bidder and not for the defense of our nation
 
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This should be fun. lol

Mystery drones appearing over NJ and NYC force FAA to impose flight restrictions
www.nbcwashington.com

Mystery drones appearing over NJ and NYC force FAA to impose flight restrictions

Sightings of the buzzing drones over New Jersey communities have been reported for weeks, prompting the attention of not only local law enforcement but also the FBI. This week, Staten Island became a target of the eyes in the sky. Congresswoman Nicole Malliotakis, a Republican representing the...
www.nbcwashington.com www.nbcwashington.com
 
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I don’t think the drone sightings picking up intensity before the end of the Biden administration is coincidence. Something tells me come January it stops.

It’s not aliens. The UAP topic is picking up steam, however.
 
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I don't know what that aeroplane looking thing is or the size but it looks like something I can buy at Target in the toy department
 
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#1,173
Who has a drone-type tech that can flip over and speed away faster than it can be followed by the eye? That are the size of vans? That can be maneuver with precision with no line of sight from the operator? That blink-out and disappear when engaged?

ET
State-sponsored
Other?
 
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