U.S. Launches Millitary Strike Against Syria (merged)

Do you agree with Trump's decision to strike Syria?


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This strike is interesting because it doesn't fit the narrative that each side wants to construct about Trump.

Trump supporters believe Trump to be anti-establishment and not beholden to special interests, yet this strike is more in the mold of our conventional, establishment, interventionist, neocon foreign policy.

Trump detractors think he is beholden to Russia/Putin and wouldn't do anything to upset them, yet he carried out this strike which has angered them.

Having digested this awhile, I think this whole bombing demonstrates that the Donald - at his core - is just an impulsive, yet rudderless and readily influenced demagogue who, ultimately, has no plan whatsoever as to how he's gonna make America Great Again.

And now he's pissed off his wacky alt-right base.
 
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Having digested this awhile, I think this whole bombing demonstrates that the Donald - at his core - is just an impulsive, yet rudderless and readily influenced demagogue who, ultimately, has no plan whatsoever as to how he's gonna make America Great Again.

And now he's pissed off his wacky alt-right base.

Did you vote for Hillary?
 
This strike is interesting because it doesn't fit the narrative that each side wants to construct about Trump.

Trump supporters believe Trump to be anti-establishment and not beholden to special interests, yet this strike is more in the mold of our conventional, establishment, interventionist, neocon foreign policy.

Trump detractors think he is beholden to Russia/Putin and wouldn't do anything to upset them, yet he carried out this strike which has angered them.

Taking this at face value, it seems that the video of children writhing in pain after the chemical attack struck a nerve of empathy in Trump (Which is great to see that he is capable of it.) but US intervention in Syria will only lead to more refugees. Does his hard line stance against them remain in tact? It's hard to see where this goes from here.
 
You can respect the right of people to wage war internally. But once a government starts using WMDs own it's own citizens, you have reached a different zip code.

The rebels also have used WMD. They actually used them first. So why are we supporting either side?
 
Because it is not an inconsistent position to be against allowing them into your country and also against them being gassed by their own government.

As Hog said, your opinion is like calling someone a hypocrite who donates money to a homeless shelter yet does not allow those same homeless people into their house.

Sorry but 59 tomahawk missiles doesn't make *45 heroic in this case. He is still a hypocrite by past things he has said and now he reacts to seeing children suffering in Syria. This has been going on for years. Now he has a heart, please.
 
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WMDs? Hmmm...

470,000 people killed by bullets, bombs, shrapnel, etc.
100 people killed by sarin gas

Which method of killing represents "mass destruction"?

Sarin gas is a chemical weapon. If you don't understand how those can be deployed with much more effectiveness, do some history reading.
 
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Didn't she go on record recommending the same thing DJT did?

Yes, but her position has been consistent. With Trump, he's now completely reversed his anti-intervention blather over the years. Had I voted for him on the premise that he was not a globalist, I'd be pissed.
 
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Susan Rice and Obama said Syria gave up their chemical weapons.. Whoops

C'mon man! putin had oversight in the removal of assad's cw.Our un ambassador said in a statement before the body that assad played putin for a fool or putin lied. t-rump to this day still refuses to make a negative comment towards russia, putin is a good leader. :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, but her position has been consistent. With Trump, he's now completely reversed his anti-intervention blather over the years. Had I voted for him on the premise that he was not a globalist, I'd be pissed.

Trump's ostensible "Syria policy," if you want to dignify it with such a name, did a full-180 in less than 48 hours.

Heck, in another 48 hours, he's liable to be back to "let the Syrian people decide" and "Assad, well, he's an all right kind of guy"-ism again.
 
So less than 24 hours after the strike, Assad's forces were already flying combat missions over the same targets (that spurred our retaliation) out of, get this, the exact same airbase.

Oil is up. No talk of any of this administration's current legal shenanigans, as we're now obsessed with this, and Trump looks "tough" on Russia and Assad.

Interesting.
 
So less than 24 hours after the strike, Assad's forces were already flying combat missions over the same targets (that spurred our retaliation) out of, get this, the exact same airbase.

Oil is up. No talk of any of this administration's current legal shenanigans, as we're now obsessed with this, and Trump looks "tough" on Russia and Assad.

Interesting.

Very interesting.

We're all glad you are here to explain things.
 
Sorry but 59 tomahawk missiles doesn't make *45 heroic in this case. He is still a hypocrite by past things he has said and now he reacts to seeing children suffering in Syria. This has been going on for years. Now he has a heart, please.

Yep, they've rolled the tape on t-rump's past positions on syria so now he says he's changed his mind. This whole affair is reuse by putin to draw America into syria's civil war, he wants a fight.
 
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So less than 24 hours after the strike, Assad's forces were already flying combat missions over the same targets (that spurred our retaliation) out of, get this, the exact same airbase.

Oil is up. No talk of any of this administration's current legal shenanigans, as we're now obsessed with this, and Trump looks "tough" on Russia and Assad.

Interesting.

russia was informed 30 mins before the strike was carried out. russia's "good leader" tipped off the syrians so they were able to move some of their planes out.
 
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Hurling 50 Tomahawk missiles at a single military base does not fundamentally undermine the Assad regime’s ability to harm its own people, and it has zero chance of altering the military and political realities on the ground. It is merely a symbolic gesture intended to deter further use of chemical weapons.

The problem with this rationale, from a humanitarian perspective, is that by last week the Assad regime had killed hundreds of thousands of Syrians with conventional weapons. On Tuesday, it reportedly killed about 75 people with chemical weapons. If saving Syrians from regime violence is the justification, this is a wholly irrational way to go about doing it.

It’s also unconstitutional and violates international law. There is no indication, as of yet, that the Trump administration is even operating under the premise that it needs legal authorization. Trump did not inform Congress of this elective bombing mission, much less ask for authorization, as the Constitution requires.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/bombing-syria-doesnt-provide-humanitarian-relief
 
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russia was informed 30 mins before the strike was carried out. russia's "good leader" tipped off the syrians so they were able to move some of their planes out.

Indeed, but the airfield wasn't even degraded, let alone destroyed.
 
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