U.S. Launches Millitary Strike Against Syria (merged)

Do you agree with Trump's decision to strike Syria?

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#103
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McMaster: Strikes crafted to avoid sarin gas storage unit so as not to cause widespread harm to Syrian civilians.
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So we knew of sarin gas storage units? Huh? I thought just a few months ago they didn't have any chemical weapons?
 
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Stoked said:
Here's what I don't understand.

Back in 2013 Trump sent these tweets.

"Again, to our very foolish leader, do not attack Syria - if you do many very bad things will happen & from that fight the U.S. gets nothing!"

"What will we get from bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval."

"The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!"

"We should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS?ZERO"

He's a walking contradiction and a huge hypocrite. Sorry, but I have a hard time trusting him.

The sad thing is, he was on the right side of this back in 2013 when it didn't even matter.
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While I can see where he contradicts himself, I don't give the first **** what he tweeted or babbled about 4 years ago when he was just some celebrity. What he tweeted about 4 years ago shouldn't have anything to do with his decision making now as POTUS. I want him making what he believes are the right decisionsn now no matter if it goes directly against what he ripped anyone else about before.
 
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Grand Vol said:
As I stated yesterday, this is where Trump can define himself as a world leader. What he does now is far more important than the strike itself. He's shown we have our own "red lines" and will not hesitate to strike if Assad crosses it. He isn't a paper tiger with empty rhetoric.

But this is the point where he has to show his statesman skills and leadership by promoting effective change and diplomacy in that region. It's easy to lob a bunch of cruise missiles into a target. The hard part is coming up.
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Throwing 50+ 1.5 million dollar rocks in the Syrian desert and back to Obama era diplomacy.
 
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Coug said:
Ron Paul is screaming the chemical attack was a false flag.

This was a very precise tomahawk missile attack only on a Syrian airfield/base. It's pretty isolated so any deaths would be from Syrian soldiers at the base.
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Ron Paul is a full brick shy of a full load

Everything is a false flag

Sometimes bad people do bad things. Its not always a frickin conspiracy
 
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McDad said:
Ruh roh, Scooby.
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He was put in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't scenario. If he didn't do anything, he was going to be seen as weak as Obama. When he did something, he was going to be seen as a warhawk.

Can't please everyone all the time of course. But again, this is where he can reassert US leadership on the world stage and hopefully help bring peace to Syria. Let's see if he takes it.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Did the Syrian military have warning?

Syrian military officials appeared to anticipate Thursday's night raid on Syria 's Shayrat airbase, evacuating personnel and moving equipment ahead of the strike, according to an eyewitness to the strike, ABC News is reporting.

Yet, Trump scolded reporters two days before, telling them he wasn't going to tell anyone what he was going to do militarily. The president made his remarks during a press conference at the White House on Wednesday with King Abdullah II of Jordan.

“I’m not saying I’m doing anything one way or the other, but I’m certainly not going to be telling you,” Trump said.

So, just to play devil's advocate, if our goal was to actually really hurt Syria militarily, didn't Trump defeat that purpose by giving Russia a heads-up that we were attacking the Syrian airbase? If we gave the Russians *enough time* to get their personnel out of harm's way, then didn't that also allow Syria time to potentially scramble some of their jets? If these are military pilots, many of them were likely on the base and capable of scrambling their jet off the base in a matter of minutes... that's what they're designed to do.

The initial number of destroyed jets I've read is 9. This airbase had far more than that onsite.

Seems to me this demonstrates that our missile strike was more a 'show of power' than a real attempt to really harm the Syrian air force. Yep. We're still the freshest smelling military on the face of the Earth, by God.
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If you don't give Russia the heads up, you are that much closer to a direct conflict with Russia
 
#110
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WSJ's Jay Solomon reported that Iran secretly threatened to suspend nuke talks if Obama attacked Assad over chemical weapons use. Obama backed down.
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His legacy is just a big pile of ****
 
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Grand Vol said:
He was put in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't scenario. If he didn't do anything, he was going to be seen as weak as Obama. When he did something, he was going to be seen as a warhawk.

Can't please everyone all the time of course. But again, this is where he can reassert US leadership on the world stage and hopefully help bring peace to Syria. Let's see if he takes it.
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Have you ever at any point witnessed him acting as a statesman and leader?
 
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I think many are really blowing this out of proportion. All we did was take out some infrastructure. We told the Russians of our plans to prevent them from having casualties of life or property. It was really nothing different than sending in a demolition crew. I think telling the Russians was a way to give Assad a chance to get his people out as well. Sort of sounding a horn at a blast site. Hopefully this will have the intended effect of Assad thinking twice before using chemical weapons again.

Also, on a side note, evidently we knew where their sarin gas storage was located at the airfield and we intentionally avoided it so as not to inflict the same fate on people nearby by possibly dispersing the gas.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
The use of gas cannot be tolerated by the world community. Owimps 'red line' was no line, so it became tacit acceptance.

However, I believe this may should have been a measured response by a multinational coalition with eastern Mediterranean support instead of a US unilateral action.
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I'm still not convinced Assad and his regime were responsible.
 
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McDad said:
Have you ever at any point witnessed him acting as a statesman and leader?
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There's a first time for everything. He's in an impossible job with a steep learning curve. Perhaps he's finally getting into the groove of things. Remember, he wasn't a politician until very recently and I've given him a lot of latitude. I'm not one of those screeching about each and every time he made a Twitter comment or about how the boogeymen Russians were under the bed.

Again, this is where he can shine. It's up to him to take the opportunity.
 
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I read this morning that the Pentagon presented several different courses of action, and this was of the smallest scale of those presented.
 
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golfballs said:
We got anymore we can fire off before they expire?

Crazy that we don't expend missiles like we used to. Need a good war to get our money's worth
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I couldn't even imagine how many of those Tomahawk missiles we've got stockpiled somewhere, or any ordnance for that matter.
 
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BTW, Syrian "rebels" have used sarin before

U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator
"Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

"This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian.
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You don't say... "Moderate" rebels, also known as ISIS, they wouldn't dare use chemical weapons on innocent civilians...
 
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