U.S. Launches Millitary Strike Against Syria (merged)

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Biden's Never Ending War Season 2 Episode 2 Out Soon?




At Least 10 Rockets Hit Airbase in Iraq Hosting US Troops

Iraq: Ain al-Asad airbase, which hosts US forces, hit by rockets

 

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[Orange defense]

We won’t do nothing, because no one will touch Iran. The people that’s in the White House loves Iran.

 

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[Grand Vol]

Not sure what you are referencing, but I do know that Germany had been trying to establish a railroad that would go between Basra and berlin since the late 1800's... for the very same reason that they are looking towards Russia with the Nordstrom pipelines and the same reason why Hitler made a push towards the Caucasus, which is energy to feed their industrial needs.

Not really what I was getting at.

 

[LouderVol]

That doesn't matter. The prevailing policy at the time was "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Again, that is why he felt that he was owed a certain measure of preferential treatment.

Not trying to be dismissive about who started what war over there. I'm not saying that Saddam was an angel. I'm simply trying to point out that Saddam may not be totally at fault in this particular situation with Kuwait. Other allowed the ball to be dropped on the diplomatic front and the sad fact is that the US had either enabled or turned a bling eye to Saddam for a while leading up to that point, so he might have had a bit more overconfidence or been a victim of poor communication.

The aggressor is always at fault. Unless you believe Kuwait had some false flag moment that triggered Saddam, its 100% on those who decide to act.

You want us to NOT be the world police, but here you are talking about the message the US should have sent. You believe we should have policed Saddam before he did anything, instead of responding to the crime.

 

[LouderVol]

I dont know if anyone else does this, but as soon as I see "contractor" I dont care. They are a mercenary. Dont care who he is working for, he is a merc. Unconcerned about him dying.

 

[utvolpj]

So we had a year to get out of the way?

 

[Grand Vol]

I dont know if anyone else does this, but as soon as I see "contractor" I dont care. They are a mercenary. Dont care who he is working for, he is a merc. Unconcerned about him dying.

There are a lot of different levels of contractor. Not all of them are the gun toting, Blackwater types.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I dont know if anyone else does this, but as soon as I see "contractor" I dont care. They are a mercenary. Dont care who he is working for, he is a merc. Unconcerned about him dying.

So no not completely. The government contracts out a large number of support jobs for the equipment due to the specialized nature of the equipment. Contractor doesn’t necessarily mean combatant, in fact most contractors aren’t allowed to be armed even. They are more “civilian technicians” not Black Water. They are necessary to keep the equipment mission ready.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We won’t do nothing, because no one will touch Iran. The people that’s in the White House loves Iran.

So, we should be going after Iran?

Or should we just pack up our s^*t and get out of there?

 

[jaybird_1981]

I dont know if anyone else does this, but as soon as I see "contractor" I dont care. They are a mercenary. Dont care who he is working for, he is a merc. Unconcerned about him dying.

Geez our military couldn't function without contractors. And the majority of them are not mercenary's like you say.

 

[LouderVol]

There are a lot of different levels of contractor. Not all of them are the gun toting, Blackwater types.

Ah, I see. That does change my opinion a bit. Since they provide so few details I always figured it was because they were the blackwater types.

 

[Grand Vol]

Ah, I see. That does change my opinion a bit. Since they provide so few details I always figured it was because they were the blackwater types.

There tends to be more contractors in theater than actual uniformed military. And as another poster pointed out, lot of construction, maintenence and support functions are contracted out.

 

[LouderVol]

There tends to be more contractors in theater than actual uniformed military. And as another poster pointed out, lot of construction, maintenence and support functions are contracted out.

So what do the infantry do?


_tongue in cheek in case it had to be said_

 

[hog88]

So what do the infantry do?


_tongue in cheek in case it had to be said_

Give the rest of the Army a purpose.

 

[Grand Vol]

So what do the infantry do?


_tongue in cheek in case it had to be said_

Infantry?

Oh, those folks that take over the 5 Star hotels where the USAF stays?

(And sleep in tents while we chuckle at them while sipping our margaritas)

 

[NorthDallas40]

So what do the infantry do?


_tongue in cheek in case it had to be said_

They actually get to shoot back when the FOB takes incoming.

 

[LouderVol]

They actually get to shoot back when the FOB takes incoming.

Reminds me of a quip from WWII: how do you tell what country a group of unknown fighters are from? Fire a shot over their head.

If they thrown down arms and surrender, they are french or italian.
If they respond with well aimed rifle fire, they are Brits.
If they fire back with machine guns, they are german.
If they immediately charge your position, they are Russian.
If nothing happens for five minutes and then your position is bombed or shelled, they are Americans.

 

[hog88]

Infantry?

Oh, those folks that take over the 5 Star hotels where the USAF stays?

(And sleep in tents while we chuckle at them while sipping our margaritas)

Tents? WTF are tents?

 

[Grand Vol]

Tents? WTF are tents?

That big hunk of heavy ass canvas you had to lug around, but probably never used.

Otherwise known as the "shelter half."

 

[hog88]

That big hunk of heavy ass canvas you had to lug around, but probably never used.

Otherwise known as the "shelter half."

That piece of TA50 was never used past basic. Shelter half, air mattress, arctic sleeping bag, field jacket, pile cap, angled flashlight, earplug case, mickey mouse boots, and I'm probably forgetting several other useless pieces of issued gear never left the wall locker except for inspection.

 

[Grand Vol]

That piece of TA50 was never used past basic. Shelter half, air mattress, arctic sleeping bag, field jacket, pile cap, angled flashlight, earplug case, mickey mouse boots, and I'm probably forgetting several other useless pieces of issued gear never left the wall locker except for inspection.

Angled flashlight I keep around since it works almost every time.

Never had an air mattress.

Arctic bag I used in Fort Dix... couple of times.

Earplugs were required gear, so always had a set.

Mickey Mouse boots I saw frequently, but never used them. The only cold weather boots I used were the Sorrells

Now,, the one piece of kit I managed to "obtain" and still use the hell out of is the N-3B parka. It's the only jacket I've ever had that I could wear a t-shirt underneath in freezing weather and not get cold. I've got it as my "have to take the dog out when it's cold and need something to pull on" jacket.

 

[Orange defense]

So, we should be going after Iran?

Or should we just pack up our s^*t and get out of there?

Sooner or later, we’re going to have to go after them.