U.S. Navy Not Fit For War

[hog88]

Dong they have INS as back up guidance for most systems and weapons?

My dong doesn't.

 

[allvol123]

There are dozens of countries in Africa that torture their own citizens, not to mention “ally” Saudi Arabia that we don’t seem to have a problem with. Also, I don’t believe anything politicians say.

And none of those have the capabilities or wealth of China.

I dont need to believe politicans to believe what China is accused of doing.

 

[BreatheUT]

Nah, we need to project power globally. Ensure the trade routes stay open, free and commerce is unimpeded. We no longer have the infrastructure/willpower to be isolationists and if we let China control global commerce they could really hurt us without firing a shot.

I could probably like each one of your posts in this thread.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I could probably like each one of your posts in this thread.

Sounds like a bromance in the making. Ha!

 

[theFallGuy]

No worries, we may not be ready for war but every ship will be flying a pride rainbow flag for the feelz.

 

[AM64]

Used to be called ANOC, if it's still MOS specific how the **** does that happen in a class of infantrymen?

Remember we're getting to be a more urban bound culture - there's navigation, and then there's roads, turns, and Waze or Google maps.

 

[midnight orange]

And none of those have the capabilities or wealth of China.

I dont need to believe politicans to believe what China is accused of doing.

So it’s ok unless the state is wealthy or capable. We’re can I find the rest of the exceptions?

 

[allvol123]

So it’s ok unless the state is wealthy or capable. We’re can I find the rest of the exceptions?

Where did I say it was ok? I am saying no one has worse intentions with greater ability to execute those intentions.

 

[AM64]

Take out or GPS satellites and we're done.

Imagine if Iraq had the means and took out GPS satellites before we took out their air defense system. Wonder if anybody has spent much time considering the accuracy of weapons like cruise missiles with sudden GPS death syndrome.

 

[VolStrom]

Remember we're getting to be a more urban bound culture - there's navigation, and then there's roads, turns, and Waze or Google maps.

Have you ever seen a young driver at a 4 way stop? They don't have a clue what to do, hence the roundabouts permeating America because people are stupid.

 

[midnight orange]

Where did I say it was ok? I am saying no one has worse intentions with greater ability to execute those intentions.

What are their intentions?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Dong they have INS as back up guidance for most systems and weapons?

Yep. And our subs I am pretty sure are still pure inertial nav when they are submerged since they cannot receive GPS sat info.

And the sub systems are top notch. They lay the gyro sensor circuits when the keels are laid they are probably the most accurate inertial nav systems ever built. However they HAVE to have that. For everyone else GPS is the goto approach and it completely smokes straight up INS nav. Most every military INS is now upgraded to EGI functionality which is Enhanced Gps aided Ins. It’s basically the same device with a GPS antenna hookup.

Basically GPS is so damn good (and it really is) that INS accuracy is completely deemphasized.

Everyone knows that now and in a near peer fight one of the first things we all assume will happen is you blind your opponent. So GPS denied is the 800lb gorilla in the room. The first guy that shows GPS accuracy retained in a denied environment will be riach biatch! I’m glad I’ll be retired before they get super serious about this.

All of this is public domain info too, there is no real insider info unless we’ve already solved it and I’m just not cleared on that info. Could be but I doubt it.

This is a HUGE deal as UAVs and RPVs become more common place.

 

[USAFgolferVol]

Have you ever seen a young driver at a 4 way stop? They don't have a clue what to do, hence the roundabouts permeating America because people are stupid.

Roundabouts are permeating because they are less costly and more efficient for traffic flow. I do agree young drivers are stupid, but that's not reason they're being implemented

 

[NorthDallas40]

Imagine if Iraq had the means and took out GPS satellites before we took out their air defense system. Wonder if anybody has spent much time considering the accuracy of weapons like cruise missiles with sudden GPS death syndrome.

Oh cruise missiles have some really really cool tricks up their sleeves. Remember how long they’ve been around

 

[AM64]

Oh cruise missiles have some really really cool tricks up their sleeves. Remember how long they’ve been around

I absolutely forgot about video guidance for those things.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I absolutely forgot about video guidance for those things.

what? They can do things like that?!

Edit: public domain linkie

BGM-109 Tomahawk - Smart Weapons

 

[VolStrom]

Roundabouts are permeating because they are less costly and more efficient for traffic flow. I do agree young drivers are stupid, but that's not reason they're being implemented

So a roundabout is less costly than a 4 way stop?

 

[Wireless1]

My concern is that as the military "weeds" out the "extremists" will the ones that are left be willing to die for their country or will we be France 2.0?

 

[AM64]

My concern is that as the military "weeds" out the "extremists" will the ones that are left be willing to die for their country or will we be France 2.0?

A pacifist military or one who only wants to fight for woke causes doesn't inspire much confidence when it comes to national security.

 

[YankeeVol]

My concern is that as the military "weeds" out the "extremists" will the ones that are left be willing to die for their country or will we be France 2.0?

The problem is they are politicizing the military. We are setting ourselves up for failure in any future major war (hell we can't even win against insurgents).

 

[OrangeTsar]

Disagree , not from Chinas Navy or military anyway, maybe from their economic policies and goals . Geography ( two oceans ) and and eastern seaboard that’s guarded as well as you can possibly make it , makes us the most well protected country on the planet .

Strange, I think that opinion was quite prevalent pre 1941 as well. After all, Japan was separated from us by the wide Pacific too, right?

 

[OrangeTsar]

Really? A fire on a ship was caused by spending too much time on diversity training?

Give me a break.

By definition, an hour spent on diversity training is an hour that CAN NOT be spent on fire training, so there, your „break“ is now delivered.

 

[allvol123]

Really? A fire on a ship was caused by spending too much time on diversity training?

Give me a break.

Oh look, Covid spread cause Trump sent mean tweets.

Come on man.

 

[BreatheUT]

Sounds like a bromance in the making. Ha!

Looking back at my post, yeah that sounds a little weird.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

I retired in 2000. Submarines. It was time for me to go. We were becoming less and less of a warship, and more and more of an inspection and PC platform. Fleet wide.

Talking to the few friends I have who left or retired after I did, it only got worse, and continues to this day.

My cousin retired in 1998, sailed boats out of Kings Bay.