UAW On Strike

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Orangeburst65 said:
I know Nissan manufactures engines in Dechard and the Japanese cars are really high on the index. Honda engines in Ohio. The American car companies source a lot from Canada and Mexico. Really just about every plant probably stamps bodies, welds, and everything else is just assembly. Usually when a foreign car mfg builds a new plant, the suppliers build close by. Not sure if these are typically Tier 1.
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Many of those mentioned also are non union. I think I remember Volkswagen Chattanooga recently voting the union down.

It's common sense that companies are gonna follow the least expensive labor. Most American made cars are now mostly assembled here from parts sourced from overseas. It's no secret that the unions have driven car companies out if the US in many ways.
 
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Nissan vehicles = Smyrna TN and Canton Mississippi
Toyota/Mazda is currently building a multimillion $ facility in Madison Alabama.
Honda builds some of theirs in Lincoln Alabama and Mercedes has a plant here in bama as well.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Build or assemble?
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The BMW plant in Spartanburg brought in many satellite companies all around them, making their component and drive train items. Interior stuff like door panels, dash, and so on all made near most of them.

We made Mercedes gas tanks.

Nissan has spawned Tier 1 suppliers all around middle TN. Some even operate right inside the plant as a separate company. probably 80% of a foreign car is made and assembled in the South. By their standards of course. Drive lines, axle assemblies, fluid tanks, interior components. Pretty much the whole car.

Main difference is they all locate to the South. No unions. Employees paid very well, and most if not all, have onsite medical doctors and pharmacies and such for the employees. Self-insured.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think a car that is considered American made it has to be made from 51% from American made parts. I think there is a significant difference in a car that gets shipped over here in a box and assemble versus a car that is truly manufactured here. But thats just me.
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Tariffs too high. They have to manufacture a certain percentage of the car completely in the US. They are not crate cars.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
Whenever I get on an Embraer, I wonder if the Brazilians know what they are doing.
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We make welded bellows for them right here in Cookeville. Landing gear welded bellows for airbus. Used to be the unit manager over that area. Welded trigger bellows for bomb detonators. Fascinating to watch someone edge weld exotic metals through a microscope, joining edges that are far thinner than paper.
 
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GVF said:
We make welded bellows for them right here in Cookeville. Landing gear welded bellows for airbus. Used to be the unit manager over that area. Welded trigger bellows for bomb detonators. Fascinating to watch someone edge weld exotic metals through a microscope, joining edges that are far thinner than paper.
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I was mostly be facetious about Embraer and thinking more engineering rather than mfg.

Do you know if there are many Tier 1's near VW in Chattanooga? Driving thru the park there does not seem to be many, maybe Gestamp and few others.
Does VW build their drivetrains in plant like you said? Thanks.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
I was mostly be facetious about Embraer and thinking more engineering rather than mfg.

Do you know if there are many Tier 1's near VW in Chattanooga? Driving thru the park there does not seem to be many, maybe Gestamp and few others.
Does VW build their drivetrains in plant like you said? Thanks.
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Not sure about VW, but based on the practices of the other foreign makers, I would say a very strong yes. I worked with some guys in Nashville (where we made Classic Peterbuilt body parts) that were with the inhouse Nissan contractor. I think it was the front end assembly that was done on site, and other assemblies at the Portland plant. Stressful setup. their production area was right next to the cell that installed the front end. It would come straight out of their "plant", into the Nissan cell, and installed. and they had to have one on the spot on cue, no exceptions. But, he worked 7 days a week for 3+ years and burned out. they could not let the Nissan line stop, waiting on them. The tier 1 supplier life is rough. If your behind you never have off. Where we made gas tanks for Mercedes in Bama, it was $10K a minute to shut their line down. Yes, by the minute. We would chopper parts in from NE GA to Tuscaloosa if we were behind. 15K for that was a bargain. they had a truck at our dock every 2 hours every day. they would go to a facility right outside the plant. Get staged per their production runs. Loaded on overhead hanger conveyors, and arrive at the line right at the moment the worker needed it, arriving same time as car coming down the line. amazing stuff if the engineers that think of this crap are any account.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
I was mostly be facetious about Embraer and thinking more engineering rather than mfg.

Do you know if there are many Tier 1's near VW in Chattanooga? Driving thru the park there does not seem to be many, maybe Gestamp and few others.
Does VW build their drivetrains in plant like you said? Thanks.
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Tier 1 suppliers can be very unassuming. Some look like a local machine shop. Some are every bit as advanced as the auto maker. My last job in GA before moving to TN, we made engine and driveline seals. Compression mold and Injected. We were pretty savvy. Hybrid company. 75% German. 25% Japanese. You can imagine our Lean programs. I was almost certified in a double green belt endeavor. Funny how life works though. Mom and Dad were getting older, so moved here for them. Dad's already passed. Career hasn't been same around Cookeville. If we had stayed there, I'd be stroking a 6 fig position by now. I was high on the plant managers list.
 
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GVF said:
Build...

The BMW plant in Spartanburg brought in many satellite companies all around them, making their component and drive train items. Interior stuff like door panels, dash, and so on all made near most of them.

We made Mercedes gas tanks.

Nissan has spawned Tier 1 suppliers all around middle TN. Some even operate right inside the plant as a separate company. probably 80% of a foreign car is made and assembled in the South. By their standards of course. Drive lines, axle assemblies, fluid tanks, interior components. Pretty much the whole car.

Main difference is they all locate to the South. No unions. Employees paid very well, and most if not all, have onsite medical doctors and pharmacies and such for the employees. Self-insured.
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That was my point. Those are non-union companies.
 
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GVF said:
Tier 1 suppliers can be very unassuming. Some look like a local machine shop. Some are every bit as advanced as the auto maker. My last job in GA before moving to TN, we made engine and driveline seals. Compression mold and Injected. We were pretty savvy. Hybrid company. 75% German. 25% Japanese. You can imagine our Lean programs. I was almost certified in a double green belt endeavor. Funny how life works though. Mom and Dad were getting older, so moved here for them. Dad's already passed. Career hasn't been same around Cookeville. If we had stayed there, I'd be stroking a 6 fig position by now. I was high on the plant managers list.
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I have been in compressor sales for decades and get to see quite a bit of manufacturing over the decades. You probably use quit a bit of air for maybe molding and extruding, or maybe hydraulic. Is it high pressure like PET bottles or mostly 100 psi stuff?

Not had many automotive accounts other than maybe the Nissan Dechard engine plant and GM Saginaw (iirc) in Decatur AL, and even those haver been 15-20 years ago. I am sure much has changed.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
I have been in compressor sales for decades and get to see quite a bit of manufacturing over the decades. You probably use quit a bit of air for maybe molding and extruding, or maybe hydraulic. Is it high pressure like PET bottles or mostly 100 psi stuff?

Not had many automotive accounts other than maybe the Nissan Dechard engine plant and GM Saginaw (iirc) in Decatur AL, and even those haver been 15-20 years ago. I am sure much has changed.
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Well thats cool, I bet you've seen the company that I worked for 25 year old Ingersoll Rand compressor facility then. Seven 2300 volt big ass compressors?
 
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VolStrom said:
Well thats cool, I bet you've seen the company that I worked for 25 year old Ingersoll Rand compressor facility then. Seven 2300 volt big ass compressors?
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You talking about the Dechard plant?
 
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Pineyvol said:
Nissan vehicles = Smyrna TN and Canton Mississippi
Toyota/Mazda is currently building a multimillion $ facility in Madison Alabama.
Honda builds some of theirs in Lincoln Alabama and Mercedes has a plant here in bama as well.
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It's not in Madison.
 
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Who buys a GM in 2019???

If you are I have some awesome beach front property in Alaska I will sell you.
 
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UAW went on strike and one of their reasons is "fair wages". What that means in union speak is that Old Man Jimbob working here for 40 years is making 90k and D'shaniquanzo who has only been there for 5 and making 45k is jealous that someone makes more than him/her. I see this crap in my organization. "Oh man I wish I made over 100k!". My response? Get a promotion. Their response "What would I do that? So I have to move? I have a family" blah blah blah.
 
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NEOCON said:
Who buys a GM in 2019???

If you are I have some awesome beach front property in Alaska I will sell you.
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I like their trucks but the interiors are terrible. I've already spent $50K on a vehicle, not sure I am going to do it again unless its made in Italy or Germany.
 
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