UAW On Strike

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BreatheUT said:
Yeah the issue with a lot of these places is of you're hired you automatically have to join the union in these places. They also struggle deals with limited on contractors to make sure these companies can't fill their employment needs in cases of strikes. Let's see how these one goes. Apparently the UAW leader is a Stellantis electrician.
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Don't get me wrong..I am for workers rights. I dont mind unions existing because it does let, somewhat, the employees have a say in their employment, benefits, etc. That is necessarily a bad thing. The bad part is the majority of the unions dont give AF about the employees. Its all about them getting members to join their club to pay their salaries because often they were terrible at their jobs. Their logic tends to be flawed and based on emotion and not actual, well, logic. Case in point the UAW wants raises for their workers that mimics what CEO's have. That doesnt even make sense. The jobs are not related at all. One job has global implications for the decisions made, one doest (take a guess which is which). Should the employees get a raise? I dont know what does the data say? Is the quality of their work showing up in the quality of the vehicles? Pay for performance, not pay for feelings.

That being said for any management here who deals with a union I have found that using their own contract against them is your greatest weapon.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
This is great. Unions unwittingly (because they leaders are often poorly educated) spur innovation in automation and outsourcing through their tired Jimmy Hoffa-esque tactics.

This does a few things:

- Make right to work states that much more appealing to manufacturers
- Make outsourcing work that much more appealing to manufacturers
- Allow other competition without unionized workers or weaker unions to gain or increase footholds in the market

Whenever ANYONE talks about why manufacturing has moved overseas, thank a dues paying union member.
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Speaking of Jimmy Hoffa. Biden may have been associated with the hustlers who got rid of him. It doesn't mean he had direct knowledge but if I remember correctly all of that happened within the same areas. I think the Hoffa situation remains a mystery. I once read up on it but have since forgotten some of the details.
 
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UAW President to make appearance with Democrat socialist Bernie Sanders.

Other Democrat lawmakers voicing support for the strike.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Speaking of Jimmy Hoffa. Biden may have been associated with the hustlers who got rid of him. It doesn't mean he had direct knowledge but if I remember correctly all of that happened within the same areas. I think the Hoffa situation remains a mystery. I once read up on it but have since forgotten some of the details.
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Maybe Hoffa is buried under Joe's garage?
 
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C-south said:
Just when I was getting use to $60k+ being a normal price for a decent truck.
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The time is probably coming when stuff sitting on a dealer's lot won't even have prices posted, and the sales guy can honestly say "If you have to ask, you can't afford it." It's unbelievable what car and truck prices are, and even worse that the UAW wants to really set prices into orbit.
 
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AM64 said:
The time is probably coming when stuff sitting on a dealer's lot won't even have prices posted, and the sales guy can honestly say "If you have to ask, you can't afford it." It's unbelievable what car and truck prices are, and even worse that the UAW wants to really set prices into orbit.
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It’s ok. You can finance them for 7-8+ years now.
 
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There is an obvious solution that will make both political sides happy. Fire those on strike and replace them with low wage immigrants. Slash benefits and pay because the immigrants will be thankful for the crumbs they get and then slash car prices.

The right gets free market capitalism and the left gets jobs for their favored immigrants plus minority hiring.
 
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volgr said:
There is an obvious solution that will make both political sides happy. Fire those on strike and replace them with low wage immigrants. Slash benefits and pay because the immigrants will be thankful for the crumbs they get and then slash car prices.

The right gets free market capitalism and the left gets jobs for their favored immigrants plus minority hiring.
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genius!
 
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AM64 said:
The time is probably coming when stuff sitting on a dealer's lot won't even have prices posted, and the sales guy can honestly say "If you have to ask, you can't afford it." It's unbelievable what car and truck prices are, and even worse that the UAW wants to really set prices into orbit.
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You think the Union bosses care? They get paid regardless.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You think the Union bosses care? They get paid regardless.
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I've always been under the impression that union workers are as devoted to the union as dem voters are to the dem party - just blind adherence where reality is immaterial. Not one of them from top to bottom has a clue about even basic economic principles like supply and demand or elasticity ... and they don't care. You could probably safely say that current UAW workers should thank previous UAW workers (and their little red book of rules) for the fact that we drive imports today.
 
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