UCF National Championship Parade

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vol66 said:
We'll have to agree to disagree I guess. I can absolutely see why you are happy with the current set up and can absolutely see why UCF is not.

I am speaking for myself here. I would rather play our 8 conference games and play 2 more P5 schools, we still play you guys, so however that gets worked out and then P5 schools must schedule 2 more games versus P5 opponents.

That's true autonomy, I bet Saban would be for going back to 10 games and doing right by the players as opposed to the giant money grab we have going on now. Expand the playoffs to 8 teams at first, with the four highest seeds getting home games...which half the fans would appreciate.

Just spit balling my Bama friend. :)
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I don't have a problem with any of that. By why cloak it in terms of helping out the G5? It does the opposite.
 
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bamawriter said:
In the history of the G5 schools getting into BCS/NY6 bowls, they have won more often than not.

You could look at that and assume that the G5 schools are every bit as good as the Power 5. Or, you could look at it and acknowledge that they are typically playing a team that just missed out on a title and isn't terribly motivated. It's all hypothetical, of course.
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Thats correct and I would love to have scenario where UCF could have proven themselves but they just didnt have the resume to make it into the playoffs.
 
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volbeast33 said:
True but no first rounders are sitting out the playoffs bc they care about those games.
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Well, yeah...I'm talking about the USC kid playing in a meaningless game...I can understand why fans don't like it, but the grown ups are the ones driving these kids to believe it's a dollar and cents equation.
 
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bamawriter said:
I don't have a problem with any of that. By why cloak it in terms of helping out the G5? It does the opposite.
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That's where we'd have to disagree.

What's the pitch for those schools in recruiting right now? Or better yet, let's think about Vandy's pitch to a kid that is also being recruited by UCF...

"Yeah, it's a long shot to get there with us, but it's no shot if you sign with them."
 
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vol66 said:
That's where we'd have to disagree.

What's the pitch for those schools in recruiting right now? Or better yet, let's think about Vandy's pitch to a kid that is also being recruited by UCF...

"Yeah, it's a long shot to get there with us, but it's no shot if you sign with them."
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If the kid isn't aware that a G5 school can't win a national title, then I doubt that he'll pass the NCAA clearinghouse anyway.
 
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allvol123 said:
Bama makes a living off their name in many cases.

It is funny though, they had a common opponent. Bama got spit roasted by them while UCF handled business.
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Because playing at a neutral site in January after everything is settled is the same thing as playing at Auburn in November.

Of all the things being thrown around, this "UCF beat Auburn but Alabama didn't" is defintely one of the dumbest.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Because playing at a neutral site in January after everything is settled is the same thing as playing at Auburn in November.

Of all the things being thrown around, this "UCF beat Auburn but Alabama didn't" is defintely one of the dumbest.
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It was settled on the field. If doesn't meet your threshold, so be it.

In a game that Bama cares about more than any other, they were run over.
 
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allvol123 said:
It was settled on the field. If doesn't meet your threshold, so be it.

In a game that Bama cares about more than any other, they were run over.
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Then LSU has a beef, because they beat Auburn too.

Transitive property is so cute.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Then LSU has a beef, because they beat Auburn too.

Transitive property is so cute.
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A beef for what? I never argued for UCF as a NC.

I merely took delight in a UCF team taking care of something BAma couldn't, in the only possible common opponent that existed.

Your bama feelings aching?
 
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allvol123 said:
A beef for what? I never argued for UCF as a NC.

I merely took delight in a UCF team taking care of something BAma couldn't, in the only possible common opponent that existed.
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Bama took care of Clemson when Auburn couldn't.

The transitive property doesn't work in sports.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bama took care of Clemson when Auburn couldn't.

The transitive property doesn't work in sports.
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He Rerun, read.

I am taking delight, not trying to prove the transitive property in football.

No biggie, Bama was worn out from that huge Mercer tussle the week before.
 
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allvol123 said:
A beef for what? I never argued for UCF as a NC.

I merely took delight in a UCF team taking care of something BAma couldn't, in the only possible common opponent that existed.

Your bama feelings aching?
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I'm not the one straining to find yet another thing to live vicariously through when it comes to beating Alabama.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I'm not the one straining to find yet another thing to live vicariously through when it comes to beating Alabama.
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I am not straining for anything.

Bama was a run over by Auburn and then UCF took care of Auburn.


As a Vol fan no strain needed to enjoy those 2 things.

Go play in the corner with Gumpwriter.
 
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allvol123 said:
I am not straining for anything.

Bama was a run over by Auburn and then UCF took care of Auburn.


As a Vol fan no strain needed to enjoy those 2 things.

Go play in the corner with Gumpwriter.
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The fact you even remotely think the matchups of Bama/Auburn and UCF/Auburn are equal is pretty good proof of said straining.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The fact you even remotely think the matchups of Bama/Auburn and UCF/Auburn are equal is pretty good proof of said straining.
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Even I have a hard time with this one...Bama should have beat Auburn and Auburn should beat UCF, yet neither of those things happened, one team is playing for a natty, the other, who is undefeated, is claiming one, which the former has done plenty of times.

I for one have no problem as the SEC across the board has claimed titles not won on the field, but in the polls.

And according to Bama Writer, what choice do they have?
 
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05_never_again said:
...and people complain about the system we have now.

The CFP is much better than the BCS, the BCS was much better than the Bowl Coalition/Alliance, and the Bowl Coalition/Alliance was better than...nothing.

This is incredible to believe now, but before 1992, there wasn't even a specific effort made to make #1 and #2 (by however method you want to determine who those teams are) play each other, or even force #1 and #2 to play in separate "big" bowl games at the end of the season.

In 1984 for example, as you said, BYU as the WAC champ was contractually obligated to play in the Holiday Bowl. The Holiday Bowl was/still is a mediocre bowl, so as the champ of a small conference they were matched up against a mediocre team from a big conference. There wasn't a damn thing anybody could do about it. Can you imagine if that system still existed today? I think the internet would melt down.
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It was a totally different mindset back then. The NC wasn't nearly as big of a deal back then as it is now. Beating your rivals and winning your conference is what people mostly cared about. Being voted #1 was great and all, but it was just water cooler talk. There were many years where there were multiplie champions.

The mindset started to change after the implementation of the seccg, when the networks realized what a money grab these championship games really are. The Bowl Alliance was the first attempt at guaranteeing a 1 vs 2 matchup. To be honest my passion for college football was far greater back then than it is now.
 
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